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How Bad will the Jazz Defense Be This Year?

I though we would be a bit better on defense. The two things that have surprised me are the rebounding (maybe that shouldn't have been a surprise) and also the lack of turnover creation. With Vanderbilt and Olynyk I thought we'd deploy more of a pressing style that relies on creating turnovers, but we're playing more of a traditional defense that's doing a good job of forcing the right shots. Despite being ranked 27th, we aren't allowing a lot of Morey shots. With the more traditional scheme, it's no surprise we have so much more success with Kessler in the game.
 
FrenchJazzFa said:
Gregg Popovich says the NBA should create a 4-point and 5-point line to create ‘real circus’ because no one wants to play defense anymore.... so truth !!
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Pop approaching "Old man yells at cloud" territory. NBA defenses have never been as good as they are now.

Just take a look at some 80's (or even 90's) games. Oh my god. The defense is laughable compared to today.

It's all just old guy nostalgia.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
Here are the defensive metrics I posted in the OP, but for this season so far:

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There are some really interesting numbers in here.

- Gay with unbelievably good defensive numbers and Simone with unbelievably bad defensive numbers. Did losing Gay make us a much worse defensive team, or did we just happen to become a worse defensive team when Gay got injured and it's messing with the numbers?
- As already discussed on this board, the Vanderbilt numbers are real bad.
- Lauri is having his best defensive season of his career. The offensive load he's taken on is pretty incredible, but to improve his defense this much is really remarkable.
- Our best defensive players tend to be our worst offensive players.
- Sexton with good individual defensive impact, but bad team defensive impact.
- Ochai and NAW haven't played enough real rotation minutes to include them, but I was curious so looked them up as well.
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Here are the updated individual defensive metrics:
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- Jared Vanderbilt's numbers haven't improved much. I had hoped they would start looking better by now.
- Mike Conley's defense has been really bad since coming back from injury by the eye test and the numbers confirm it.
- Ochai and NAW's numbers are coming down to earth a little since getting more minutes, but still look pretty good.
- Lauri continues to be our only real two way player. All of our best defenders are bad offensive players.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
Here are the updated individual defensive metrics:
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- Jared Vanderbilt's numbers haven't improved much. I had hoped they would start looking better by now.
- Mike Conley's defense has been really bad since coming back from injury by the eye test and the numbers confirm it.
- Ochai and NAW's numbers are coming down to earth a little since getting more minutes, but still look pretty good.
- Lauri continues to be our only real two way player. All of our best defenders are bad offensive players.
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I don't think Kessler is a bad offensive player. More like neutral. I mean he is shooting 72.4% from the field for the season.
 
The worst point is having 3 starters in the worst defender cat. I can understand for Mike as he is our best playmaker by far but as long as Vando and KO will remain starters , we won't be good.
 
FrenchJazzFa said:
The worst point is having 3 starters in the worst defender cat. I can understand for Mike as he is our best playmaker by far but as long as Vando and KO will remain starters , we won't be good.
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Hardy could try to balance out the lineups a little bit better. Honestly Kessler for Vando would probably do the trick for the starting lineup.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
Hardy could try to balance out the lineups a little bit better. Honestly Kessler for Vando would probably do the trick for the starting lineup.
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Just looked this up and the normal starting lineup has an offensive rating of 112 and a defensive rating of 113 (actually much better than I expected). The same lineup with Kessler for Vando has an offensive rating of 124.6 and a defensive rating of 89.1, although they have only played 26 total minutes together.
 
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