How interested/engaged/enthusiastic are you about the Jazz right now?

[FalseFlagg K]

after completely losing interest lasy year i'm super excited for this season. I really won't mind the losing as i'll enjoy watching the players actually try and the coach / front office trying to lose. Last year held zero interest other than getting a top pick. Watching talented young players develop even if their results suck will be so much more fun than that

Very hopeful of a season of about 20-23 wins, the young guys showing flashes of their talents, Markkanen re-establish himself, then hopefully a top 3 pick and turnaround in fortunes the season after

 

[SoberasHotRod]

I'm surprised that nobody has selected the last option. It feels like we always have a lot of posters that come and go as we acquire new players.

 

[jope]

The vast majority of this board was so adamant about blowing up the team that was hovering around 1st place in the league year after year by trading Rudy and Don.. and now that we’ve sucked for a few years and look to suck for several more, people have lost interest. Go figure.

 

[Swuul]

I'm surprised that nobody has selected the last option. It feels like we always have a lot of posters that come and go as we acquire new players.

Fixed, just for you

 

[SoberasHotRod]

The vast majority of this board was so adamant about blowing up the team that was hovering around 1st place in the league year after year by trading Rudy and Don.. and now that we’ve sucked for a few years and look to suck for several more, people have lost interest. Go figure.

Like I said in my post, me having less interest doesn't have to do with us being bad. I've really gotten in to the draft and I'm excited to see the young guys play. I understood the teardown/rebuild and while I don't agree it's 100% the best thing we could have done, I do still think it was the right move.

That's not completely true though. I think part of my disinterest has come from the letdown of the team being built in a way that I don't really love. I'm fine with our front office seeing the game and team building differently than I do, and I'm not pretending like I would have the team in a better position than they have. I just think the whole process has led me to understand that I have absolutely no control over this thing that is so important to me. When you think about sports team fandom, it's just so illogical. My mood/happiness is so tied in to this thing that I have no say in.

This is why I'm saying that I hope that I'm wiser in my older age and will spend less of my heart and time on something that is so illogical. Now this is all relative as well. My interest/enthusiasm has gone from irrational levels to hopefully healthy levels. I am still a fan and always will be.

 

[SoberasHotRod]

I also think it's normal and natural for interest level/engagement to vary over time. I think we see that with posters who come and go or become more or less active on here.

For me I started getting really interested in the Jazz as a teenager, but I had a ton of diversions and interests so the Jazz were just one of them. My interest waned a little bit as I went to college, got married, and had kids as I was just too busy for any diversions. Once we got out of the baby phase and my job got more steady I started to have more room for thinking about diversions again and that was the peak of my engagement level with the team. I also had more money to pay for league pass and go to games, etc. That's when I started to become a much more active poster on this site. I'm hoping that I'm entering a new stage of my life where I've started to care about more important things and the Jazz become a more healthy interest. We'll see how it goes, wish me luck.

 

[David Hume]

Like I said in my post, me having less interest doesn't have to do with us being bad. I've really gotten in to the draft and I'm excited to see the young guys play. I understood the teardown/rebuild and while I don't agree it's 100% the best thing we could have done, I do still think it was the right move.

That's not completely true though. I think part of my disinterest has come from the letdown of the team being built in a way that I don't really love. I'm fine with our front office seeing the game and team building differently than I do, and I'm not pretending like I would have the team in a better position than they have. I just think the whole process has led me to understand that I have absolutely no control over this thing that is so important to me. When you think about sports team fandom, it's just so illogical. My mood/happiness is so tied in to this thing that I have no say in.

This is why I'm saying that I hope that I'm wiser in my older age and will spend less of my heart and time on something that is so illogical. Now this is all relative as well. My interest/enthusiasm has gone from irrational levels to hopefully healthy levels. I am still a fan and always will be.

Read Bronislaw Malinowski’s Argonauts of the Western Pacific. He lived with a Tribe in the Trobriand Islands for 2 years and saw they were obsessed with a trade in prestige items, shells and necklaces in particular. They would fantasize about possessing a famous necklace, or an old but coveted bracelet, which would give them prestige as if they won an NBA championship or were Finals MVP or whatever. My point being that it is human nature to have fanatical in-group/out group “tribal” teams and to seek greater prestige, which can translate into better mating opportunities. Or instead of Argonauts, maybe just read an introductory textbook on evolutionary psychology.

 

[NAOS_pt2]

My interest started to plummet the moment it became screamingly obvious that Dennis Lindsay and Quin Snyder had decided that it would be fun to fling poo at one another rather than step into a title window. My interest has bobbed back up a little bit now that the Collins-Sexton-Clarkson era is over. All of those dudes are good guys, but they were good for a treadmill.

 

[jazznik]

Who IS a fan of the Jazz team and not a fan of specific players? Players are not interchangeable and not fungible. If the owner of the Jazz somehow pulled a swap and got an entire 2025 OKC team in the Jazz uniform would you immediately start cheering for them? And if this OKC squad wins the championship in the Jazz jerseys would it not be hollow?

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[Rubashov]

My level of interest in the coming season is somewhere between a prostate exam to a full colonoscopy

 

[Schrödinger's Gerbil]

I also think it's normal and natural for interest level/engagement to vary over time. I think we see that with posters who come and go or become more or less active on here.

For me I started getting really interested in the Jazz as a teenager, but I had a ton of diversions and interests so the Jazz were just one of them. My interest waned a little bit as I went to college, got married, and had kids as I was just too busy for any diversions. Once we got out of the baby phase and my job got more steady I started to have more room for thinking about diversions again and that was the peak of my engagement level with the team. I also had more money to pay for league pass and go to games, etc. That's when I started to become a much more active poster on this site. I'm hoping that I'm entering a new stage of my life where I've started to care about more important things and the Jazz become a more healthy interest. We'll see how it goes, wish me luck.

For me, the Jazz are a diversion from the pressures and stresses of life. Getting emotionally invested in something relatively trivial, benign, and ultimately inconsequential, but at the same time entertaining, has long been an escape for me. That's one reason why I care much more for the entertainment value of Jazz b-ball than whether they win a title. While I enjoy it more at the margin if they advance deeper into the playoffs, I care more about six months of being entertained and having an escape valve. My life won't change, and I won't be any better off if the Jazz win a title, but I'll be better off mentally for six months of escapist entertainment. Now the FO has gone and completely ruined the entertainment value of being a Jazz fan.

Fortunately, Liverpool remains entertaining, although I wish they'd stop playing down to the level of their competition. Giving up two-goal leads in successive games to lower-to-mid-table teams, and one with only 10 men, has been unnecessarily nail-biting, but it HAS been entertaining.

 

[KqWIN]

Regular season is the same for me whether we're winning or not. When the Jazz had the best record in the league, we were constantly reminded of why it didn't matter, and it was true in a championship or bust league. This idea of making everything about the big picture is an incredibly lame fan experience IMO. But that's just me speaking as a "special interest" kind of fan. For most people winning is going to be better than losing by design. But whether you are winning or losing, the NBA does everything it can to tell you that the night to night action does not matter.