How the Mormons Make Money

[Stoked]

Why can't you just let people believe that it's irrevocable law dedicated and given from a higher power/god for obedience and the building up of zion (super corny. haha)?

Just because you don't believe it, doesn't mean it's not true for other people. And let's say just for the hells sake of it that it's not true, at least its making people feel like their is more to life than nihilism.

I love you fallenchicken guy and btw, I don't pay tithing because I'm too selfish, but I'm not going to rip on those who do.

Amen to that.

 

[northeast]

what you characterize as ripping I see as trying to be helpful.

 

[Archie Moses]

what you characterize as ripping I see as trying to be helpful.

You nonbeliever and sinful man who does not submit himself unto god with a contrite spirit and broken heart shall surely burn in hell for the wrath of the almighty shall come upon thee swiftly and ye shall burn in fire and brimstone.

Btw I'm just trying to help.

Hehepeepeecaca.

 

[northeast]

somebody else just said that he thought that his neighbor whose kids didn't have enough to eat should maybe not give so much of his income to some church before buying food, or medicine or what not, for his own family.

how is that ripping?

 

[Dr. Jones]

PKM, hurting me does not make you right. You are living in a fantasy world.

Both sentences are laughable.

- I hurt you, really?

- I live in a fantasy world because I think that some, but not all, things that come from charitable giving are good?

So, as you have stated, people who give charitably do so for selfish and evil reasons and those that handle the charities do so for selfish and evil reasons. Gotcha. (oh .. and wow.)

 

[Scat]

So you two will get a room and NAOS will be left outside, in the cold, reading a "Do Not Disturb" sign, I presume?

No, we'll lock NAOS in the room with nothing but his thoughts while Conan and I go to the new mall and check out all the babes in sundresses.

 

[northeast]

Both sentences are laughable.

- I hurt you, really? You do not discuss the topic, but instead resort to calling me names in order to degrade my reputation and undermine my position.

- I live in a fantasy world because I think that some, but not all, things that come from charitable giving are good? No, this is totally different than what you said earlier.

So, as you have stated, people who give charitably do so for selfish and evil reasons and those that handle the charities do so for selfish and charitable reasons. Again, you are changing things around, saying I said things totally different from what i said.

Gotcha. (oh .. and wow.) wow what ?

my responses in bold

 

[Dr. Jones]

my responses in bold

Go back and read everything that was written. I betcha it sounds a hell of a lot more like what I just said than what you said above.

 

[northeast]

. When I pay a tithe, I have complete confidence that God will do good with it .. it's just faith.

evidence

 

[northeast]

As I said, those that give are more likely to see the good in things and those that don't, don't. I'm not debating the merits of any specific thing, but rather the psychological/philosophical side of the equation.

evidence

 

[northeast]

Go back and read everything that was written. I betcha it sounds a hell of a lot more like what I just said than what you said above.

You make up stuff about what I said.
Why not disagree with something I actually said, instead of saying I said things I did not say, and mocking me for those things?

 

[northeast]

Quote Originally Posted by northeast View Post
Some people know that a charity is bad
I'm sure you're right.

Quote Originally Posted by northeast View Post
, and they support it for their own selfish reasons. You are generalizing. Different people are involved with charity for different reasons.
I'm also in agreement that people have different motivations. I also agree that I was generalizing. No arguments from me so far.


Quote Originally Posted by northeast View Post
You are assuming that charity is good.
How did you get that from what I posted? You're wrong on that one.
So you are not assuming charity is good?
Quote Originally Posted by northeast View Post
You are using circular reasoning.
Really? Based on this post??
So you are not assuming charity is good?
"I suspect that those that give to charity see a lot of good it does.
I suspect those that don't give to charity feel it would be a waste anyway."

Quote Originally Posted by northeast View Post
I would agree that most people who donate to a charity do not see the bad they are doing, and many imagine they are doing good when they are not.
Wow, that some jaded viewpoint there. I'm not sure how we got to debating whether charity is good or bad when all I said was it's in the eye of the beholder .. but you are seriously a crusty ol' hater if you actually believe that charity is more bad than good. JMO.
So after saying I was wrong to say that you think charity does more good than bad, you are saying that you do think charity does more good than bad, and mock me for thinking otherwise.... and yet you will not discuss this topic.