How the Mormons Make Money

[Dr. Jones]

I read it all. Nothing to add.

 

[One Brow]

I get what you're saying here, but it did create new permanent jobs as well. All those new retail stores need employees. The mall itself needs employees. The parking structures built with it need employees. The housing it created needs employees. The grocery store needs employees. None of those things were there.

The retail jobs depend on people buying there, instead of elsewhere. Same for the mall jobs, grocery jobs, and parking structure jobs. The housing depends on people living there, instead of elsewhere. IfSLC was being underserved in the retail or housing market, this would mean jobs have been created. Otherwise, I see it as them being shuffled around.

Manufacturing creates jobs. Infrastructure creates jobs indirectly. New technologies create jobs. Retail, I'm not so sure about.

 

[NAOS]

Ah, my bad. I swear I thought I read:

But you have an education and some of us don't, so go easy on us lower lifeforms, okay? Thanks friend.

Please, keep demonstrating how little you've thought about this. You're taking my statement about the teenager or 20-something selling an object in a retail outlet as indicative of what I think of the value of the entire retail enterprise. In other words, you're being a ****ing moron.

Continue...

 

[NAOS]

So says the guy that just can't help but report my posts and private messages... Oh, boooo hoooo... You're a pretentious, narcissistic prick AND a hypocrite -- nice combo, guy. Also, you never followed up on a date for our "face to face" meet n' greet, and I'm getting impatient.

I'm doing everybody a favor. You've been way too uncensored around here because you've coddled the right sacks. Just how above censorship are you? Everybody who has been dinged or suspended would probably want to know since there clearly has been special treatment.

EDIT TO ADD: I'll take your comment about how I reported your PM to me (which made specific physical threats) as a joke.... since, earlier, you posted my Private Message to you on a Public Forum. I mean, what you did is totally cool, right? (also, that's the only thing I've reported... and you say otherwise... cool, braugh)

 

[NAOS]

The retail jobs depend on people buying there, instead of elsewhere. Same for the mall jobs, grocery jobs, and parking structure jobs. The housing depends on people living there, instead of elsewhere. IfSLC was being underserved in the retail or housing market, this would mean jobs have been created. Otherwise, I see it as them being shuffled around.

Manufacturing creates jobs. Infrastructure creates jobs indirectly. New technologies create jobs. Retail, I'm not so sure about.

excellent point. This thread has been way too sparse in questioning the jobs themselves. Shockingly sparse.

jobs = good = praise for the person who scattered the seed
right?

 

[Stoked]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...an-experience/2012/07/11/gJQA5aU2cW_blog.html

Interesting take on Mormonism viewed from outside and from within.

As for the comment someone made about members being "robbed" of 10% of their income. Well they choose to give that income to the church. If a man that chooses to do so that is between him and his church and is frankly none of your damn business. As for PMSing about paying that or his lighting bill as he gazes at that mall well guess what...He can go to his Bishop and receive the help that he needs to pay that bill.

So kindly stay out of an affair that is frankly none of your damn business.

 

[Stoked]

excellent point. This thread has been way too sparse in questioning the jobs themselves. Shockingly sparse.

jobs = good = praise for the person who scattered the seed
right?

Possibly yes. Further more intensive study may lead one to another conclussion but yea creating jobs is generally a good thing.

 

[franklin]

The retail jobs depend on people buying there, instead of elsewhere. Same for the mall jobs, grocery jobs, and parking structure jobs. The housing depends on people living there, instead of elsewhere. IfSLC was being underserved in the retail or housing market, this would mean jobs have been created. Otherwise, I see it as them being shuffled around.

That's a fallacy limited by some imaginary sales maximum. Human psychology plays a huge role in economic output. Being spurred to purchase more because I like the environment increases velocity. Sales tax revenues increase, providing funding for additional jobs elsewhere. Public transportation loads have increased moving people to this new center. No doubt many others frequented gas stations, etc. at a higher clip in their travels too and from it.

Manufacturing creates jobs. Infrastructure creates jobs indirectly. New technologies create jobs. Retail, I'm not so sure about.

This essentially contradicts your first paragraph. New technologies create jobs by? (stimulating demand for products)
The manufacturing angle is identical to the pre-1900's farm angle. The majority of jobs as a % of the population in both these categories have disappeared and we're all better off for it.

 

[One Brow]

As for the comment someone made about members being "robbed" of 10% of their income. Well they choose to give that income to the church. If a man that chooses to do so that is between him and his church and is frankly none of your damn business.

I agree, "robbed" is uncalled for. Now, "swindled", "conned" or "defrauded" are all in the mix (all of which invovle one person voluntarily giving money to another), but certainly not "robbed".

 

[One Brow]

That's a fallacy limited by some imaginary sales maximum. Human psychology plays a huge role in economic output. Being spurred to purchase more because I like the environment increases velocity. Sales tax revenues increase, providing funding for additional jobs elsewhere. Public transportation loads have increased moving people to this new center. No doubt many others frequented gas stations, etc. at a higher clip in their travels too and from it.

If being spurred to purchase because of a pleasant environment is a reason that jobs increase, than the retail outlet only increases jobs to the degree that it's environment is more pleasant, correct? Sales tax revenue increases in one locastion, but is that offset by another location losing that revenue?

As I said, I am unsure if retail outlets increase jobs in communities already well-served by retail. What you offer seems to be conditional on this, as well. I am not saying retail development never increases the total job status of a community, only that it does not necessarily do so.

This essentially contradicts your first paragraph. New technologies create jobs by? (stimulating demand for products)
The manufacturing angle is identical to the pre-1900's farm angle. The majority of jobs as a % of the population in both these categories have disappeared and we're all better off for it.

New products can create demand where it may not have existed before, or increase satisfaction to the satisfied demand to the point that spending increases (e.g., 3D movies). Will the new retail structure in SLC have either of those effects? I don't know.

 

[Dr. Jones]

This thread has become a yawner. Where's the fighting, the name calling .. The invites for fist-fights. C'mon ladies!

 

[Stoked]

This thread has become a yawner. Where's the fighting, the name calling .. The invites for fist-fights. C'mon ladies!

You shut your dirty mouth when you are talking to me you sandbagging sombich. When I want your opinion I will give it to you!







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