How the Mormons Make Money

[NAOS]

That's a fallacy limited by some imaginary sales maximum. Human psychology plays a huge role in economic output. Being spurred to purchase more because I like the environment increases velocity. Sales tax revenues increase, providing funding for additional jobs elsewhere. Public transportation loads have increased moving people to this new center. No doubt many others frequented gas stations, etc. at a higher clip in their travels too and from it.




This essentially contradicts your first paragraph. New technologies create jobs by? (stimulating demand for products)
The manufacturing angle is identical to the pre-1900's farm angle. The majority of jobs as a % of the population in both these categories have disappeared and we're all better off for it.

I sincerely love it when you jump in with these well-informed economics arguments. I thought about this differently after you posted, so thanks.

I agree that the differential rate of consumption can have transformative effects on an economy. Therefore, seeing that One Brow's comments didn't acknowledge this differential and the ensuing complexity, what he said had certain limitations. That said, it is also possible that the increased rate of consumption spurred on by this mall (which is certain to happen at first) will taper off and come back to rates that equal "shuffling around." In other words, what he said has limitations, but could still be generally true. Remember, there is $2 billion invested here....

It's also certainly the case that the advanced econometrics you hinted at are themselves full of certain assumptions/fallacies. The most obvious being how they are predicated on a model of continuous growth/accumulation. That's not reducible to human psychology, but requires participation from the Earth and productive bodies. Do your econometrics account for the true costs of production? <-- too short, but I gotta run.

 

[franklin]

OB made a good observation. I just wanted to point out the benefits of moving the world forward and that spurring our animal spirits is hard to account for on paper. For example, how do you measure the positive impact from those living next to this gentrified structure has on consumption not directly linked to the mall? And what about the new products and services sold inside?

It's also certainly the case that the advanced econometrics you hinted at are themselves full of certain assumptions/fallacies. The most obvious being how they are predicated on a model of continuous growth/accumulation. That's not reducible to human psychology, but requires participation from the Earth and productive bodies. Do your econometrics account for the true costs of production? <-- too short, but I gotta run.

I'll be happy when we decide we've accumulated enough ****, recycle everything, work 2 hours per day, & have nothing left to do other than give each other hand jobs & back massages--preferably on guided fishing excursions or cave tours. Services don't require much from the earth.

In the meantime, good luck with that true production cost stuff. Socialist republican conservatives love to spread the costs of pollution.

 

[NAOS]

... And that spurring our animal spirits is hard to account for on paper.....

hahaha

 

[Revolution 9]

Is there anything really dishonest in this cover?
Why run away from this. When you combine business, and religion aren't you open for debate?
This is one of the big reasons I could not be a member of the church(or any church for that matter). The ability to debate, and question things.

In my book the truth should be examined in detail. The truth has nothing to hide.

 

[Archie Moses]

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Is there anything really dishonest in this cover?
Why run away from this. When you combine business, and religion aren't you open for debate?
This is one of the big reasons I could not be a member of the church(or any church for that matter). The ability to debate, and question things.

In my book the truth should be examined in detail. The truth has nothing to hide.

Negged.

Keep on hating and sippin the too cool for school aid.

 

[BluesRocker]

I dont like all the Mormon bashers either, and I am not a regular church goer. I was baptised but quit going in the 3rd grade. My family was very poor growinh up and the church was very generous to us. They fed us for a few years. I know all about Deseret food. I know of a few cases where the church has helped out with peoples mortgages too.

I respect the church and its members even though I am not religous. I love the state of Utah and the friendly atmosphere. I would much rather have overly nice people as neighbors than live in a state with outrages gang problems and rude people.

To all the Mormon and Utah bashers, get the **** out or shut the **** up. It gets real old hearing people hating on this fine state and people. I dont understand if you dont like mormons so much then why do you stick around? Go move to one of those other ****ty cities. We dont need you.

If the church deems it ok to build a mall, its fine by me. All religions can be picked apart for numerous things. I like the positive influence the church brings to our state.

Suck it!

 

[CONAN]

Love the concept of tithing. Blesses my life more than I'll ever know. Been paid back 1000000000%.

 

[pickledXgrandma]

Love the concept of tithing. Blesses my life more than I'll ever know. Been paid back 1000000000%.

How has it paid you back? Genuianly curious

 

[Stoked]

How has it paid you back? Genuianly curious

It has been my experience that things just seem to work out. You catch breaks and things fall your way. That car repair turns out to be an easy fix and the mechanic does it for free, you get a bonus from work, you cath a sale on something you really need...

I know it sounds like pure luck but it always seems to be ok and work out.

 

[BluesRocker]

It has been my experience that things just seem to work out. You catch breaks and things fall your way. That car repair turns out to be an easy fix and the mechanic does it for free, you get a bonus from work, you cath a sale on something you really need...

I know it sounds like pure luck but it always seems to be ok and work out.

why didnt you just say karma?

 

[Stoked]

why didnt you just say karma?

I figured she/he may want something a little more in depth.

 

[Scat]

It has been my experience that things just seem to work out. You catch breaks and things fall your way. That car repair turns out to be an easy fix and the mechanic does it for free, you get a bonus from work, you cath a sale on something you really need...

I know it sounds like pure luck but it always seems to be ok and work out.

While I'm not currently active nor pay a tithe I can vouch for this. Things just seemed to work out for the best during this time in my life.