How the Mormons Make Money

[Stoked]

to your point, there is plenty of political apathy amongst non-Mormons in SLC. I can't say I blame them. Can you?

Oh no, I don't blame them at all. That was not even the point I was trying to make. Just my theory on why the state government is so heavily Mormon. I think even if non-mormons in SLC started turning up in droves at the poling stations they would have an uphill battle.

 

[NAOS]

This is part of the landscaped architectural dream that goes all the way back to building Zion. Everything in its right place. Salt Lake City, "a city of sprinklers." I think this has a lot more to do with sheer Mormon power/will and their particular imaginations about manicuring space.

I'm pretty surprised that this comment didn't spark some kind of counter-attack.

 

[Stoked]

I'm pretty surprised that this comment didn't spark some kind of counter-attack.

I see no reason it should. Mormon society in general tends to be well organized. Pushing that onto the cities they have founded and built does not suprise me.

 

[Bronco70]

If I weren't such a cynical misanthrope...

 

[Bronco70]

I'm pretty surprised that this comment didn't spark some kind of counter-attack.

I see no reason it should. Mormon society in general tends to be well organized. Pushing that onto the cities they have founded and built does not suprise me.

Plus, mormons have never been vague or disingenuous about their desire to build their own little mormon utopia. That was a big chunk of the reason they chugged across the plains to get here.

 

[NAOS]

There have been a couple of statements along the lines of Mormon rights to transform the landscape of a city they "founded." You all know they weren't the first people to utilize that space, right?

 

[Scat]

There have been a couple of statements along the lines of Mormon rights to transform the landscape of a city they "founded." You all know they weren't the first people to utilize that space, right?

Just the most assertive.

 

[bigb]

In other words, Trout can send you a PM with specific physical threats and not receive even a yellow card.

Thanks, mods, for running a stupid ship.

And you know this how? Thanks for jumping to stupid conclusions.

 

[NAOS]

Just the most assertive.

^quotable^... since I'm sure you fully approve of 'assertiveness' as the sole necessary conditions for doing anything... in other words, just dominate.

Perfect, because I think that's still what we have on our hands today.

 

[NAOS]

And you know this how? Thanks for jumping to stupid conclusions.

he said he didn't know I reported. I imagine he would have known I reported it if he received some kind of warning. This seemed like a fair conclusion.

My apologies if I was wrong. Truly.

 

[Bronco70]

There have been a couple of statements along the lines of Mormon rights to transform the landscape of a city they "founded."

General enough? You're a smart guy, NAOS. You know there are a lot of mormons, or others who are (at least situationally) sympathetic to them, on this board. Do comments of that nature surprise you?

Ultimately, the church pulls a lot of political weight in SLC. If they want something done, it usually gets done. Generally (and I'm almost positive you'll have some argument for this) the church strives to consider the interests of the community, along with their own.

I'm certainly not part of the "If you don't like it, leave" crowd (much too much of that attitude amongst members). To be honest, I'd love to see Utah's mormon population drop below 50%, for a couple of reasons. But as it stands, that isn't the case. So, mormon interests will continue to dominate.

 

[NAOS]

General enough? You're a smart guy, NAOS. You know there are a lot of mormons, or others who are (at least situationally) sympathetic to them, on this board. Do comments of that nature surprise you?

Ultimately, the church pulls a lot of political weight in SLC. If they want something done, it usually gets done. Generally (and I'm almost positive you'll have some argument for this) the church strives to consider the interests of the community, along with their own.

I'm certainly not part of the "If you don't like it, leave" crowd (much too much of that attitude amongst members). To be honest, I'd love to see Utah's mormon population drop below 50%, for a couple of reasons. But as it stands, that isn't the case. So, mormon interests will continue to dominate.

I'm not really arguing against anything you just said...

just browse back through the pages of this thread... you'll see a general sentiment that they have a "right to rule," which goes right alongside the assumption that this is "obviously good for the economy." When I started pushing the issues a little bit, it's clear that these views are able to stand up to challenges, like whether the changes are democratic, or whether anybody has actually thought about a mall being good for an economy.

No, it doesn't surprise me that the majority of this board is sympathetic to the Mormon church. But, I am interested in how those sympathies take shape. As I'm sure you know, mainstream Mormonism has changed quite a bit in the past 30-40 years.