How would save this team as “the DL replacement”?

[LoPo]

And that will never ever happen unless we get some David Robinson/Steph Curry style “miraculous” injury - the Jazz have no such mindset or process. The fans would go ape if it didn’t seem for real. Also I think I might have mentioned this but we don’t own our 2021 1st round draft pick outright - if it falls between 8 and 14, we lose the rights to Memphis (Conley deal)...


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With how bad we look
-added to rapidly aging Bojan and Joe
-added to possibly losing Conley
-added to Don looking so bad

...it might be better to lose our pick this summer than summer 2022 when the pick has less protections.

We are a capped out team so we have to maximize assets. Thats why we paid to keep Clarkson. Its why we extended Rudy and Don. Thats why we can't just lose Conley for nothing. Thats why we have to pursue all avenues for improvement through trades.

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[Jazzmix]

Like I've always said, tank this season. Hope for some draft luck and get our third star. Our 1st round pick for 2022 is like 97% chance going to Memphis, so this season is our only window. We ain't contending **** this season. And next season Conley's gonna walk. Bojan/Ingles contract will go from “moderate” to “horrendous”. Royce too. Its a slippery slope that we can't get out of. At this rate we will end up giving Memphis a high lottery pick in 2022 unless we get a young star from 2021’s draft who could turn us around.

This is horrible idea imo. We just paid Rudy a nearly supermax and you want to make him sit out the whole season? You also claim that Ingles and Boyan will be done next season so you basically want to waste their "last" season. All that gambling on the chance of picking a player in the draft who will fit and produce from day one so we can win a championship in his first season.. I know we are not a real contender but I would rather gamble on the current team catching fire/favorable marchups/AD injury in the playoffs than on your plan. We are stuck where we are, the only option I see is trying to improve through trades including Bojan/Clarkson/Royce. We should have tanked in Donovan's first season, now is too late.

 

[TheGoldStandard]

If I were the Millers I'd find some billionaire sucker to buy the team and get out before the wheels call off.

 

[movedaball]

This is horrible idea imo. We just paid Rudy a nearly supermax and you want to make him sit out the whole season? You also claim that Ingles and Boyan will be done next season so you basically want to waste their "last" season. All that gambling on the chance of picking a player in the draft who will fit and produce from day one so we can win a championship in his first season.. I know we are not a real contender but I would rather gamble on the current team catching fire/favorable marchups/AD injury in the playoffs than on your plan. We are stuck where we are, the only option I see is trying to improve through trades including Bojan/Clarkson/Royce. We should have tanked in Donovan's first season, now is too late.

Yeah that’s what I said we’re the victims of our own success - overperformance really in that first year. It blinded everyone from the reality of what we had, and given the choices we made since, has really handcuffed us. Major suckage to be a Jazz fan right now - the funny thing is some fans on Facebook groups still don’t seem to get it.


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[Jazzmix]

Yeah that’s what I said we’re the victims of our own success - overperformance really in that first year. It blinded everyone from the reality of what we had, and given the choices we made since, has really handcuffed us. Major suckage to be a Jazz fan right now - the funny thing is some fans on Facebook groups still don’t seem to get it.


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I am not delusional about our chances at the title but I don't think it's a suckage to be a Jazz fan. I still enjoy rooting for them and find that group of people really likeable.

 

[TheGoldStandard]

This forum truly cracks me up. The team win a few games and everyone says the Jazz are the Chiefs of the NBA. The team loses a few and suddenly the Jazz are a scrub team with no hope. Has anyone noticed that a number of "talented" teams have also struggled out of the gate? It is a weird year.

Utah has good talent that is off to its usual slow start. It is the end of the season that matters. This is a unique year that started with very little preseason/training camp, and we have a player coming off a wrist surgery that hasn't found rhythm yet. We also have other talented players that haven't cracked the rotation yet. Part of making adjustments is also about making sure your main guys have rhythm. There have also been some adjustments on offense that have helped Conley, but seemed to have caused issues for Donovan as Q continues to add some wrinkles to the offense.

I don't like Quin, never have. He was supposed to be an offensive mastermind, which turned into being a defensive genius after Rudy emerged. The fact is, he is neither, but players like him, and honestly, in today's NBA, that is just as important as coaching has become coddling and babysitting more than coaching.

 

[416Klawzz]

This forum truly cracks me up. The team win a few games and everyone says the Jazz are the Chiefs of the NBA. The team loses a few and suddenly the Jazz are a scrub team with no hope. Has anyone noticed that a number of "talented" teams have also struggled out of the gate? It is a weird year.

Utah has good talent that is off to its usual slow start. It is the end of the season that matters. This is a unique year that started with very little preseason/training camp, and we have a player coming off a wrist surgery that hasn't found rhythm yet. We also have other talented players that haven't cracked the rotation yet. Part of making adjustments is also about making sure your main guys have rhythm. There have also been some adjustments on offense that have helped Conley, but seemed to have caused issues for Donovan as Q continues to add some wrinkles to the offense.

I don't like Quin, never have. He was supposed to be an offensive mastermind, which turned into being a defensive genius after Rudy emerged. The fact is, he is neither, but players like him, and honestly, in today's NBA, that is just as important as coaching has become coddling and babysitting more than coaching.

Can't nullify bad contracts or reverse the hands of time. Our team is gripped with both

 

[TheGoldStandard]

Can't nullify bad contracts or reverse the hands of time. Our team is gripped with both

I agree, and the Conley trade hurt the team, and I really didn't want him, but oh well. I think Bogey is still a net positive, he just needs to get into a rhythm after being out for so long.

And Q needs to get people to pass to the open guy more. Too much one on one and holding the ball from a couple of guys.

 

[movedaball]

This forum truly cracks me up. The team win a few games and everyone says the Jazz are the Chiefs of the NBA. The team loses a few and suddenly the Jazz are a scrub team with no hope. Has anyone noticed that a number of "talented" teams have also struggled out of the gate? It is a weird year.

Utah has good talent that is off to its usual slow start. It is the end of the season that matters. This is a unique year that started with very little preseason/training camp, and we have a player coming off a wrist surgery that hasn't found rhythm yet. We also have other talented players that haven't cracked the rotation yet. Part of making adjustments is also about making sure your main guys have rhythm. There have also been some adjustments on offense that have helped Conley, but seemed to have caused issues for Donovan as Q continues to add some wrinkles to the offense.

I don't like Quin, never have. He was supposed to be an offensive mastermind, which turned into being a defensive genius after Rudy emerged. The fact is, he is neither, but players like him, and honestly, in today's NBA, that is just as important as coaching has become coddling and babysitting more than coaching.

It’s not just the talent level - it’s probably even more the lack of elite athleticism and youth from the core guys - it’s really hard when you’re playing a style that has you taking long threes and layups if you can’t get back in transition when you miss.

The whole point of running basically the whole team back was what they did against a bad defensive team in one playoff series, and adding Bojan and Favors. Having an edge no other team had - the continuity aspect so far has been worthless. THAT would fix our perennially bad starts with Quin cuz of his PhD system... perhaps not

Last year Jazz had serious problems at defending the perimeter, and defending everywhere when Rudy sat. Drafting Dok when they knew they had Favors, combined with being willing to overpay for Rudy anyway, was putrid. It’s just poor planning on their part. Serviceable backup bigs are the cheapest commodity in this league right now, even if DL screwed up twice with Ed Davis and Tony Bradley. Their core got a year older, they did virtually nothing to correct the issues on the perimeter and it’s showing on that end right now.

And now the Jazz are hovering over the luxury tax with what looks to be a 2nd round exit team at best. That’s a rough start for a new owner who clearly has big thoughts for his franchise.


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