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Huntsman not so Mormony

TroutBum said:
Trout, 1:1-2:

"Thou shalt not be a dumbass."

"Science > Your Opinion"
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Sorry didn't know that you were a scientist. Did playing the rub and pull all the time get you on the outs with religion. Your always a repentance process away from being guiltless. Or is science > you pride also.
 
KOC BEGONE said:
Sorry didn't know that you were a scientist. Did playing the rub and pull all the time get you on the outs with religion. Your always a repentance process away from being guiltless. Or is science > you pride also.
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You didn't know I was a scientist? Are you stupid or something? I'm also a cunning linguist, much like yourself.
 
I am a lesbian trapped in a man's body.
 
Archie Moses said:
I've gone to church once in the last six months. I feel like I'm turning into Huntsman, although I would never deny my feelings for the church or God/Christ. I'm just lazy and I've gotten into a bad routine. I'm pretty much going to hell for more reasons than one. No lol.
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It's not even football season, binitarian.

Does quantity > quality make me a better Mormon than you? If yes then would that motivate you?
 
My wife and I were semi-active for like a year after we got married.

I think that happens a lot.

I'm one of those mormons that does all the stuff, but doesn't believe the church has to be the most important thing in your life.

Newlyweds need time to be together, w/o a bunch of crazies sucking them into every little activity going on.
 
Bronco70 said:
Newlyweds need time to be together, w/o a bunch of crazies sucking them into every little activity going on.
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A busy Mormon is a good Mormon.

My wife and I had been married for 6 years when we decided to become active again and go through the temple. We had both been raised in Mormon households but neither of us had been active since high school however. I swear I was slapped with a big sign on my back that said "New Meat!" Within 6 months of becoming active I was the scout master, a home teacher, had given 3 talks in church, been asked to give multiple prayers & help at every function/gathering/fund raiser possible. It's not a stretch to say that I was doing Church stuff a minimum 3 days a week and oft times it was more.

The final straw was when they asked me teach a Sunday School class without relieving me of any of my other duties. I declined telling them that I simply didn't have the time with my other responsibilities, work and my family. I was given a rash of crap for turning down the calling. I quit everything right then and there and let them know that I'd get back to them when I was ready to serve again.

If you let it, the Church will absolutely dominate your every waking second.
 
Something many people lose sight of (without going into too much detail) is that one of the purposes of the Church (and probably most churches) is to help bring people closer to Christ, and by doing that also strengthen families at the same time. It's not just the doing the things we are "supposed" to do... because that is just the start. If we know why, and understand the purposes we start to step away from being the Pharisees of the New Testament. They did things because that was what they were supposed to do too, but it's much more than that, or deeper than that.

"Going" to church does nothing if a person is just going through the motions, and there is not benefit to the core of who you are. The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath.

It's the same with everything else, we do not get the benefit of these things until we understand what value they add to us as people and then we approach these things with the attitude of becoming better, or coming closer to Christ every time we do them.

Repetition is great, but at some point we need to learn the why, and go deeper than a surface level of blindly going through the motions. If what we do does not positively affect who we are, then why are we doing it? It takes time and effort..... and honestly sometimes just going through the motions is the best we can do at the time and it's a good starting point.

In a way I am agreeing with the people that post that it is a waste to blindly follow a religion.... but I am not saying anyone is stronger for walking away. I am saying dig in and understand it, know why you do the things you do. Know why you believe the things you believe deep down to the core level..... and then do them. Don't believe it but then fail to commit. If you believe in something, do something about it, and do it right so it's part of you to your core.
 
Marcus said:
A busy Mormon is a good Mormon.

My wife and I had been married for 6 years when we decided to become active again and go through the temple. We had both been raised in Mormon households but neither of us had been active since high school however. I swear I was slapped with a big sign on my back that said "New Meat!" Within 6 months of becoming active I was the scout master, a home teacher, had given 3 talks in church, been asked to give multiple prayers & help at every function/gathering/fund raiser possible. It's not a stretch to say that I was doing Church stuff a minimum 3 days a week and oft times it was more.

The final straw was when they asked me teach a Sunday School class without relieving me of any of my other duties. I declined telling them that I simply didn't have the time with my other responsibilities, work and my family. I was given a rash of crap for turning down the calling. I quit everything right then and there and let them know that I'd get back to them when I was ready to serve again.

If you let it, the Church will absolutely dominate your every waking second.
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Interesting. I guess everyone is different. I had the same issues, but I've really enjoyed it. I have a lot of fun speaking and teaching, so I haven't had any beef. I always get called to do the service projects for the ward (because a: they know I won't say no, and b: everyone else in the ward is lame), and I've met and made some awesome people/relationships. If not for being 'active' in my church callings, I probably wouldn't be all that 'active', if you know what I'm saying. I freaking hate going to church, but love everything else about it.
 
Marcus said:
A busy Mormon is a good Mormon.

My wife and I had been married for 6 years when we decided to become active again and go through the temple. We had both been raised in Mormon households but neither of us had been active since high school however. I swear I was slapped with a big sign on my back that said "New Meat!" Within 6 months of becoming active I was the scout master, a home teacher, had given 3 talks in church, been asked to give multiple prayers & help at every function/gathering/fund raiser possible. It's not a stretch to say that I was doing Church stuff a minimum 3 days a week and oft times it was more.

The final straw was when they asked me teach a Sunday School class without relieving me of any of my other duties. I declined telling them that I simply didn't have the time with my other responsibilities, work and my family. I was given a rash of crap for turning down the calling. I quit everything right then and there and let them know that I'd get back to them when I was ready to serve again.

If you let it, the Church will absolutely dominate your every waking second.
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That is a bummer.
I've been told many times that service in the church should not overload me, or take away from my family.
Service is great, but there needs to be balance in life. An imbalance in life, even in the service area throws life out of whack and is just too much.

I guess it depends on who is doing the asking, and how well they really know that you and your family are more important than any "job" or task that needs to be done.

I am truly sorry that you experienced that... it shouldn't be like that.

My opinion is that Scoutmaster is huge....and nobody should be tasked with that and have anything else piled on. There's a ton to do with scouts, and that is one of the bigger burdens as to callings.
 
TroutBum said:
Interesting. I guess everyone is different. I had the same issues, but I've really enjoyed it. I have a lot of fun speaking and teaching, so I haven't had any beef. I always get called to do the service projects for the ward (because a: they know I won't say no, and b: everyone else in the ward is lame), and I've met and made some awesome people/relationships. If not for being 'active' in my church callings, I probably wouldn't be all that 'active', if you know what I'm saying. I freaking hate going to church, but love everything else about it.
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What is funny is the people that own a truck that are constantly asked to help people move, or to move a washer and dryer... or whatever.
I say funny because most of the people I know with trucks get that all the time... but they don't mind too much.
 
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