Huntsman not so Mormony

[TroutBum]

What is funny is the people that own a truck that are constantly asked to help people move, or to move a washer and dryer... or whatever.
I say funny because most of the people I know with trucks get that all the time... but they don't mind too much.

c: I own a truck.


Son of a bitch...

 

[LogGrad98]

Interesting. I guess everyone is different. I had the same issues, but I've really enjoyed it. I have a lot of fun speaking and teaching, so I haven't had any beef. I always get called to do the service projects for the ward (because a: they know I won't say no, and b: everyone else in the ward is lame), and I've met and made some awesome people/relationships. If not for being 'active' in my church callings, I probably wouldn't be all that 'active', if you know what I'm saying. I freaking hate going to church, but love everything else about it.

Dude you sell insurance. That is hardly comparable to a real job. You obviously have tons of extra time. I am sure you probably end all of your talks/lessons with a brochure and a fridge magnet.


In all seriousness, am I the only one that found it irritating when they created a "calling" just so no one was actually just a member? I remember getting called as the assistant to the 2nd and 4th week deacons quorum teacher in a ward that had 5 deacons. 5 deacons and they had a deacons advisor, 2 teachers and then an assistant teacher. It isn't like I didn't get involved and help out in other areas on my own (scouts, young men, sports, etc.). That was almost just patronizing and kind of said "if you don't have some kind of BS calling you are not really a member".

Sometimes it is ok to just be a member.

 

[TroutBum]

Dude you sell insurance. That is hardly comparable to a real job. You obviously have tons of extra time. I am sure you probably end all of your talks/lessons with a brochure and a fridge magnet.


In all seriousness, am I the only one that found it irritating when they created a "calling" just so no one was actually just a member? I remember getting called as the assistant to the 2nd and 4th week deacons quorum teacher in a ward that had 5 deacons. 5 deacons and they had a deacons advisor, 2 teachers and then an assistant teacher. Sometimes it is ok to just be a member.

Did I ever SAY that I had a real job? Clearly, you have reading problems. I used to LOVE made-up callings. Those are the best, next to Librarian, imo.

 

[LogGrad98]

Did I ever SAY that I had a real job? Clearly, you have reading problems. I used to LOVE made-up callings. Those are the best, next to Librarian, imo.

Then there is Nursery Leader (which can no longer be a male by the way, along with primary teacher, since everyone knows every male in the world wants nothing more than to molest every 0-8 year old kid they can get their hands on no matter the venue), which is the most hellish calling there is, especially in a ward with lots of kids. Also I guess they thought they were giving my wife a job she would LOVE since she had 2 in nursery already, so why not put her in charge of 15 of the little basta...uh I mean angels...so she never gets a break from snot/****/bawling/whining/etc.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

Dude you sell insurance. That is hardly comparable to a real job. You obviously have tons of extra time. I am sure you probably end all of your talks/lessons with a brochure and a fridge magnet.


In all seriousness, am I the only one that found it irritating when they created a "calling" just so no one was actually just a member? I remember getting called as the assistant to the 2nd and 4th week deacons quorum teacher in a ward that had 5 deacons. 5 deacons and they had a deacons advisor, 2 teachers and then an assistant teacher. It isn't like I didn't get involved and help out in other areas on my own (scouts, young men, sports, etc.). That was almost just patronizing and kind of said "if you don't have some kind of BS calling you are not really a member".

Sometimes it is ok to just be a member.

Ok, that is pretty bad...an assistant to an advisor?
My opinion is to cycle people in from time to time with callings, and let the others enjoy more time with the family.
Pretty much everyone is a HT'er anyways, so it's not like there is nothing to be done if they want to.

I spent about 5 months without a calling and it was funny what a rollercoaster it was for me.
I started thinking I must have done something wrong in my last calling and that's why I was released, then I started enjoying it, then I got bored and wanted to do more and be involved.
I should have just enjoyed it the whole time.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

Then there is Nursery Leader (which can no longer be a male by the way, along with primary teacher, since everyone knows every male in the world wants nothing more than to molest every 0-8 year old kid they can get their hands on no matter the venue), which is the most hellish calling there is, especially in a ward with lots of kids. Also I guess they thought they were giving my wife a job she would LOVE since she had 2 in nursery already, so why not put her in charge of 15 of the little basta...uh I mean angels...so she never gets a break from snot/****/bawling/whining/etc.

That would be the exact reason to not have your wife do nursery... give her a break.
We have 3 male nursery teacher's in our ward. I guess someone did not get the memo?

 

[Scat]

My opinion is that Scoutmaster is huge....and nobody should be tasked with that and have anything else piled on. There's a ton to do with scouts, and that is one of the bigger burdens as to callings.

I'm glad somebody appreciates the magnitude of the calling.

Scouts took up at least 2 days per week. The standard weekday get together and then the Scoutmaster usually serves as a Priesthood adviser as well so that meant Sunday was spent on scouts. In addition I was the merit badge counsellor for 6 different badges so I always had kids calling me asking if they could come over and pass stuff off.

In addition to these duties we tried to go camping at least once a month which was a Friday night through Saturday afternoon. Oft times we would try to catch camps when the kids had a day off school so that we could go for 2-3 days instead of just overnight. Of course I'd have to take a day or two off work but I get 4 weeks vacation per year so it usually worked out. And then there was at least a full week of camp during the summer. Again, I gave up a week of vacation to spend with the scouts.

Now, all that being said, it wasn't the scouts that were difficult to deal with, it was the freakin' parents. Just try and find a parent willing to go camping with his son for the weekend because we could use an extra vehicle to haul up gear and kids. Just try and find parents to take a week off work and go camping with you. I had one mother go to the Bishop and complain because her son wasn't advancing towards his Eagle fast enough and her ex-husband was threatening to take custody because under his watch the son would make Eagle for sure. Guess what? The kid could care less. We had several kids that were advancing right along. They'd come every week and participate. This kid would just sit in class and wait for it to end so he could play football afterwards.

The worst were the kids that never came to scouts because they simply didn't care. Then, all of the sudden they'd be 17 1/2 and the parents would decide that they really needed to get their Eagle. I'd have parents hounding me to pass them off for stuff that I knew dang well they hadn't done. I even had one parent give me work that an older brother had turned in for his Eagle project expecting me to give junior credit.

Yup, if it weren't for parents, scouting would be fun.

 

[LogGrad98]

Yup, if it weren't for parents, scouting would be fun.

This applies to coaching kids sports too. And just about any other kids activity you may be involved in.

 

[colton]

I'm glad somebody appreciates the magnitude of the calling.

Yes, my experience is that Scoutmaster is quite possibly the third most demanding calling in a ward--just after bishop and relief society president.

 

[LogGrad98]

That would be the exact reason to not have your wife do nursery... give her a break.
We have 3 male nursery teacher's in our ward. I guess someone did not get the memo?

That was my thought too. She ended up asking for a release after about a month, gave it a good try but just no way.

Also, I do not know if it is official from the church, but due to my job we have moved quite a bit and have been told more than once that we can "team-teach" primary or nursery but that males are not "allowed" to be in there alone. Which was ok with me since I never wanted to teach primary anyway. Still found it interesting they told us that. We have been "team-teachers" in primary a couple of times and once they even told us that if my wife were ill, I would not be allowed to teach the class by myself, that I had to find another teacher available to teach it for us so I was not involved at all. There were 3 team-teacher groups and we just ended up teaching each others' classes if one was out since the men could not teach alone. Weird.

 

[Scat]

This applies to coaching kids sports too. And just about any other kids activity you may be involved in.

Tis true. I've coached my kids' soccer teams over the years and parents are a challenge. They don't seem to understand that if their kid is too busy to come to practice then I'm too busy coaching those that want to play to take the time to sub their kid into the game. They never complain to me directly.

They just run to the league director and complain behind my back.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

Now, all that being said, it wasn't the scouts that were difficult to deal with, it was the freakin' parents. Just try and find a parent willing to go camping with his son for the weekend because we could use an extra vehicle to haul up gear and kids. Just try and find parents to take a week off work and go camping with you. I had one mother go to the Bishop and complain because her son wasn't advancing towards his Eagle fast enough and her ex-husband was threatening to take custody because under his watch the son would make Eagle for sure. Guess what? The kid could care less. We had several kids that were advancing right along. They'd come every week and participate. This kid would just sit in class and wait for it to end so he could play football afterwards.

The worst were the kids that never came to scouts because they simply didn't care. Then, all of the sudden they'd be 17 1/2 and the parents would decide that they really needed to get their Eagle. I'd have parents hounding me to pass them off for stuff that I knew dang well they hadn't done. I even had one parent give me work that an older brother had turned in for his Eagle project expecting me to give junior credit.

Yup, if it weren't for parents, scouting would be fun.

This applies to coaching kids sports too. And just about any other kids activity you may be involved in.

The parents can be bad, and in different ways.
Some parents don't care at all, and never check up on or help their kids.
Some parents do it for their kids, and expect the kids to learn something... might as well award the Eagle to the mom.
Some parents procrastinate and try to push things through with mimimal effort and only want the badge...even though it's too late to do right.

Every once in a while there will be good parents that help and coach their kids the whole time, and support without actually doing things for them.
It's usually those parents that will go on the campouts with the leaders from time to time and help out.

Good scout leaders are hard to find, my opinion is parents and other leaders should be involved to help them and take some of the load so they don't get burnt out. A good scout leader does more good for those boys than about anyone else, and they should have enough help that they can focus on the important things.

Whatever... that's just my opinion.