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One Brow

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Says the race baiter.
How do you put race on a hook, and what would you expect to catch?

To my recollection, I have started one thread related to race in the past five years (on the Midlothian shooting), so I see your visions of other posters is as clear as your vision of Trump.
 

Catchall

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I'm not familiar with calls to pull down a Jefferson statue, and the call is to remove the two statues next to Teddy Roosevelt.

Defund =/= dismantle.

Well, antifa does throw plastic bottles. I can see why your preference is for the people the people that use combat batons and throw hammers.



I very happy with the SCOTUS opinion. Trumps executive order did almost nothing to promote police reform, and being granted civil rights is not like being given cookies.
 
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Catchall

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How do you put race on a hook, and what would you expect to catch?
I never mentioned race in any of my posts. I respect black people's rights and oppose police brutality and unfair policing tactics based on race.

To my recollection, I have started one thread related to race in the past five years (on the Midlothian shooting), so I see your visions of other posters is as clear as your vision of Trump.
What you believe is in your own head. I'm responding to your post at face value. How you respond is up to you.
 

One Brow

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I didn't know about that one.

Minneapolis is a special case, very few cities are looking to take that step.

Got any evidence it was antifa in any of those videos? Most rioters/looters arrested have no connection to any groups, and about three times as many right-wing provocateurs have been arrested related to protests as have antifa.
 

Catchall

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Doesn't change that snowflakes are white.
Snowflake is a political label. It's derogatory, but doesn't refer to any person's race. It refers to the fact that they melt easily. From Wikipedia -- "Snowflake is a 2010s derogatory slang term for [people]... [who] are overly-emotional, easily offended, and unable to deal with opposing opinions. Common usages include the terms special snowflake, Generation Snowflake, and snowflake as a politicized insult."

Your comment seemed to suggest my political position in this thread is because I'm white, which would be a reference to identity politics. If I'm simply misunderstanding you, then I won't take offense and apologize for my part in the misunderstanding.
 

Catchall

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“Rant”. Ok.

Let’s get all the false equivalencies out of the way first, emmk?
This entire thread is itself a sarcastic rant against Donald Trump. It follows in the tradition of "Lets all impeach Trump!" and the Election 2020 thread, which is 90% endless liberal railing against Trump. Don't act stupid (unless, of course, it's not an act). See if Wes agrees, or if he really enthusiastically plans to vote for Trump.

If you want to use the word "diatribe" instead of "rant," I'm okay with that. I'm happy to dish at you guys if I've got the time.

If people think this thread is becoming too hot to handle, then lock it.
 
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NAOS

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This entire thread is itself a sarcastic rant against Donald Trump. It follows in the tradition of "Lets all impeach Trump!" and the Election 2020 thread, which is 90% endless liberal railing against Trump. Don't act stupid (unless, of course, it's not an act). See if Wes agrees, or if he really enthusiastically plans to vote for Trump.

If you want to use the word "diatribe" instead of "rant," I'm okay with that. I'm happy to dish at you guys if I've got the time.

If people think this thread is becoming too hot to handle, then lock it.
Keep going... I’m sure you can find more false equivalences and overly general categories to explain everybody’s actions. You’re certainly verrrrry level-headed, doe.
 

Catchall

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Keep going... I’m sure you can find more false equivalences and overly general categories to explain everybody’s actions. You’re certainly verrrrry level-headed, doe.
If you're concerned by some 'false equivalency' in my posts then you're welcome to actually point one out and we can discuss it. See if you can make an actual argument.

I'll wait.

So far, if I recall, you've made two references to drinking bleach, which is a complete miss...
 
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NAOS

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If you're concerned by some 'false equivalency' in my posts then you're welcome to actually point one out and we can discuss it. See if you can make an actual argument.
You’re a peach. It’s clear that your flailing like a bitch if you don’t think I can put together an argument on the subject of politics. I sincerely hope you aren’t in an irretrievably broken place.

Anyone who would group together the intentions, points argued, and nuances from posters as diverse as Wes, fishonjazz, Red, One Brow, etc. is making one hell of a lot of false equivalences.

.... Let’s cycle back to the irony of you blaming others for not making a clear argument. Are we there again? Ok? Now let’s lol. Thanks.
 

One Brow

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Snowflake is a political label. It's derogatory, but doesn't refer to any person's race. It refers to the fact that they melt easily. From Wikipedia -- "Snowflake is a 2010s derogatory slang term for [people]... [who] are overly-emotional, easily offended, and unable to deal with opposing opinions. Common usages include the terms special snowflake, Generation Snowflake, and snowflake as a politicized insult."
Sounds a lot like you, at least as much as the posters you used it upon.

Your comment seemed to suggest my political position in this thread is because I'm white, which would be a reference to identity politics. If I'm simply misunderstanding you, then I won't take offense and apologize for my part in the misunderstanding.
1) There are definitely conservatives of all races. However, because of the differences in the way we are treated due to our skin color, out skin color affects everything about out experiences and opinions, including our political opinions. So, it's more complicated than "you have to be white to be a conservative" or "you'd be conservative no matter what your skin color was", neither is true.
2) I have noted that the people who use the term "snowflake" in the manner you quoted are often white people who are offended by notions like "safe spaces", which have no effect on them to begin with, hence easily offended.
 

Catchall

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You’re a peach. It’s clear that your flailing like a bitch if you don’t think I can put together an argument on the subject of politics. I sincerely hope you aren’t in an irretrievably broken place.
First of all, it's "you're." Second of all, I'm not flailing, nor am I a "bitch," which shows your level of maturity and civility.

Anyone who would group together the intentions, points argued, and nuances from posters as diverse as Wes, fishonjazz, Red, One Brow, etc. is making one hell of a lot of false equivalences.
It would be fair to say that you, Wes, Fishonjazz, and One Brow all more or less agree that you strongly dislike Trump and would like to see him replaced by any Democrat on the ticket. (I don't really know Red.) That perspective has been conveyed for years in the General Discussion board. That's not a false equivalence. That's fair equivalence in this context. If any of you disagree, you're welcome to say so. I used the term "you snowflakes" a bit flippantly, as is the tone of this entire thread.

.... Let’s cycle back to the irony of you blaming others for not making a clear argument. Are we there again?
I'm not blaming others for anything. I'm pointing at you for simply ridiculing without making a coherent statement of your own.
 

Catchall

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Sounds a lot like you, at least as much as the posters you used it upon.
I don't mind other people having other viewpoints or opposing viewpoints. There is often an insinuation on this board that if someone doesn't outright hate President Trump, that person must be some kind of backwater racist or misogynist. I don't agree with that view.

1) There are definitely conservatives of all races. However, because of the differences in the way we are treated due to our skin color, out skin color affects everything about out experiences and opinions, including our political opinions. So, it's more complicated than "you have to be white to be a conservative" or "you'd be conservative no matter what your skin color was", neither is true.
I won't disagree. I think people of similar race do have common political interests in certain situations (especially as we re-examine the state of civil rights), but at the same time, there is incredible variance and diversity within groups of people within the same race. (For example, rarely would it make much sense to generalize about Asians, since Asians are comprised of literally billions of different people in all kinds of situations.) One subtle form of racism is to assume all black people must think the same, or should think the same, or that they should be treated as political capital or as a political quantity by either political party.

There are indeed situations where white people are unaware or unempathetic towards the life experience of other races. I'll own that. The larger, lingering question of how Europeans colonized the west is also a fair, though complicated discussion.

I appreciate your comment here. Constructive and insightful. Respect.

2) I have noted that the people who use the term "snowflake" in the manner you quoted are often white people who are offended by notions like "safe spaces", which have no effect on them to begin with, hence easily offended.
It is a contemptuous and derogatory term. I shouldn't use it to describe anyone, so that's my mistake.
 
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Wes Mantooth

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First of all, it's "you're." Second of all, I'm not flailing, nor am I a "bitch," which shows your level of maturity and civility.



It would be fair to say that you, Wes, Fishonjazz, and One Brow all more or less agree that you strongly dislike Trump and would like to see him replaced by any Democrat on the ticket. (I don't really know Red.) That perspective has been conveyed for years in the General Discussion board. That's not a false equivalence. That's fair equivalence in this context. If any of you disagree, you're welcome to say so. I used the term "you snowflakes" a bit flippantly, as is the tone of this entire thread.



I'm not blaming others for anything. I'm pointing at you for simply ridiculing without making a coherent statement of your own.
How dare you?!!! I voted for a Trump!!!!!
 
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