I don't read newspapers much anymore. They have owners, it's a pretty quick study to see that management has some kind of point of view, and rarely anymore do I see anything I could call "journalism" of the sort i was taught..... objective facts, relevant points of view discussed reasonably. We have such a rage of intolerance going on.You sound like someone who reads the Washington Post.
I've appreciated both of you almost all of the time, and Log. Pretty sure you are at least sincere in wanting a productive discussion.
I've had some good honest Commie friends who could talk about stuff with no insults, and who would do anything they could to help out when needed. I mean really decent friends.
I just think there is a reality at hand, in our nature, in the world around us. That reality allows us to be sociable, socialist in our actions and views, but the positive values of it really fade out in the hands of most politicians with real financial backers. Sheer rhetoric is pretty much unreal.