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I know there are a lot of LDS people here

fishonjazz said:
I'm curious as well.
If there are really a bunch of polygamists in the quorum of the 12 then im shocked I have never heard about it before.
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This. I'm not really pro-LDS after this little stint, but I'm curious.

Do you mean a sealed wife died, and then he married another in the Temple? Wikipedia doesn't mention an unsealing, but such things are sacred, and not mentioned often. This would mean, theoretically in the LDS cannon, this man will have two wives in heaven.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_M._Nelson
 
That is an interesting question. Because this policy change has shown there are all kinds of ways to react to policy changes.

I can't speak for everyone, but I suppose my reaction then would be much like it is now...a non reaction.
 
green said:
colton said:
No, not necessarily. "Serial sealings" don't guarantee polygamous relationships in the hereafter. After all, there is no opportunity for the deceased spouse to agree to the plural marriage which would need to be a requirement.
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Source?
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Not quite sure what you're asking for a source for. That a plural marriage would require the consent of the first wife? I'm pretty sure that was common practice, although there were exceptions (notably Joseph Smith and Emma, who if I recall correctly sometimes did and sometimes did not consent).

How about a source for your claim that current LDS leaders believe that serial sealings after the death of a spouse will force the involved parties into plural marriages in the hereafter?
 
BabyPeterzz said:
Interesting take on doctrine v. policy.

https://www.sltrib.com/lifestyle/faith/3166492-155/new-mormon-edict-on-gays-is

Taking this into account, for those of you hitching your wagon to this policy, how will you justify your stance once this is changed?
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I haven't seen anyone "hitching their wagon" to the policy. I think most of the reaction from LDS in this thread has been like mine, where I specifically pointed out the exact same thing--that it was a policy that could change at any time, that there are some reasons for it that make sense, others that don't make sense, and that even if we feel the stuff that doesn't make sense may outweigh the stuff that does, we'll continue to support the LDS church leaders.
 
colton said:
Not quite sure what you're asking for a source for. That a plural marriage would require the consent of the first wife? I'm pretty sure that was common practice, although there were exceptions (notably Joseph Smith and Emma, who if I recall correctly sometimes did and sometimes did not consent).



How about a source for your claim that current LDS leaders believe that serial sealings after the death of a spouse will force the involved parties into plural marriages in the hereafter?
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If you enter into a temple marriage, you are sealed for eternity. If your wife dies and you marry again in the temple, again you are sealed for eternity. How is this that you don't have an eternal marriage to two women?

Edit: it seems the LDS church acknowledges this as they do not allow a sealed widow to remarry in the temple as marriage to plural men is not allowed. If plural marriage is not allowed how can men seal to multiple women, but not the inverse? What am I missing?
 
JAZZGASM said:
If you enter into a temple marriage, you are sealed for eternity. If your wife dies and you marry again in the temple, again you are sealed for eternity. How is this that you don't have an eternal marriage to two women?
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Sealing is a promise of blessings, not a forcing into a relationship.

Just to take an example, if a husband and wife get sealed in the temple but the husband is abusive, do you think the wife is forced into that relationship for all eternity even if they never get a "cancellation of sealing"? That's certainly not what any sane LDS member would believe! (in my opinion)
 
GVC said:
lots of stuff I'm not going to bother quoting
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Since we both believe we have the moral high ground on this and since further discussion is just likely to lead to anger and resentment on both sides, I'll let you have the last word with your post.
 
colton said:
Sealing is a promise of blessings, not a forcing into a relationship.

Just to take an example, if a husband and wife get sealed in the temple but the husband is abusive, do you think the wife is forced into that relationship for all eternity even if they never get a "cancellation of sealing"? That's certainly not what any sane LDS member would believe! (in my opinion)
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If it is just a promise of blessings, then why can men be sealed to multiple women but not the inverse? And why can a woman only get sealed again only if the first sealing is cancelled first?
 
ElRoach0 said:
This. I'm not really pro-LDS after this little stint, but I'm curious.

Do you mean a sealed wife died, and then he married another in the Temple? Wikipedia doesn't mention an unsealing, but such things are sacred, and not mentioned often. This would mean, theoretically in the LDS cannon, this man will have two wives in heaven.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_M._Nelson
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Which is what the church believes. I think they use an Isaiah quote to show that polygamy will happen in the next life.
 
JAZZGASM said:
If you enter into a temple marriage, you are sealed for eternity. If your wife dies and you marry again in the temple, again you are sealed for eternity. How is this that you don't have an eternal marriage to two women?

Edit: it seems the LDS church acknowledges this as they do not allow a sealed widow to remarry in the temple as marriage to plural men is not allowed. If plural marriage is not allowed how can men seal to multiple women, but not the inverse? What am I missing?
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You are spot on. Men are allowed to be sealed to multiple women. BUT, if a woman is sealed to one man, she has to cancel that sealing to be sealed to another man.

Polygamy is still going on in the church.
 
JAZZGASM said:
If it is just a promise of blessings, then why can men be sealed to multiple women but not the inverse? And why can a woman only get sealed again only if the first sealing is cancelled first?
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You know the answer to this. According to mormon beliefs, if you are sealed to multiple women, you will have multiple wives in the next life.

Isaiah 4:1 is the scripture that has been used to explain polygamy heaven.

I've heard it taught in church that there will be more righteous women in heaven than men and that is why there is polygamy.

Sorry guys, we are screwed.
 
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