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I love the no complaining NBA

franklin said:
So you are in favor of adjusting the rules from year to year to accommodate a ppg target?

There are two separate issues here. Mebbe you can form a second personality to assure you get the difference???
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Mebbe you can learn to read. He's agreeing with you, even if he's not addressing every one of your points.
 
I thought it was great at first, but watching players and coaches biting their tongue after a terrible call just makes me mad. If a ref makes a terrible call, do they get fined? If the performance of individual ref's was made public (like the players and coaches performances are), wouldn't that ease the tension and suspicion between ref's and fans/players/coaches?
 
Idk about fined, but they should have a rating system, and if they dont get a certain grade, they dont have a job anymore.
 
I hate the whining but what the NBA is doing right now is ridiculous. It won't last and shouldn't. What they need to do is start calling T's on the elite who get away with an excess of crap all the time. That is the needed change. T Kobe up.
 
I think Stern will use all the whining about the rule, by fans and media, as justification to get rid of it. He'll say something like, well you wanted us to fix it and when we did you complained about it. All so he won't have to change his "Jordan Rules" and fix the crappy officiating.
 
Marcus said:
Shouldn't this be an automatic *edited by moderator*?

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Fixed that for you, he sure does have a perty mouth, nice observation there Marcus.
 
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candrew said:
Late in the game last night a Laker player got a T for throwing up his hands after a foul called on him (I think it was the rookie (Ebanks?) on Hayward). I believe the the T plus the free throw iced the game for Utah. In the same situation can you imagine a ref calling a T on that player in the playoffs?
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That is what I don't like about the rule, it affects the outcome of the game. I'd rather the NBA call the player the next morning and say "we looked at the tape and your fine is $10,000 for your expression at 4:10 left in teh 3rd quarter."

Refs allready slow the game down, put themselves too much in the spotlight, and apply the rules with a bias towards or against certain players, they'll just abuse this rule too. Refs should'nt decide games, the players should.
 
Mellow that is an interesting thought, I like the idea of fining a player but it doesn't address the complaining or whining that alters calls later in games.

This is one area where Phil Jackson excels and Sloan not so much. Whenever the Lakers and Jazz have a playoff series and the series is tied and the next game is critical, I can always count on Phil to jab the refs about how much Utah grabs, holds, cheats, plays dirty, etc. It usually happens in some very nonchalant way. A reporter will ask why Kobe shot 4 for 28 in the last game and phil will say because Utah fouls him on every play. The next game, inevitably, Utah is called for 67 fouls for the Lakers 10.

Complaining in the NBA is an art form, it is not done to change the refs mind about that call, its done to change the mind on the next call. There has to be a way to eliminate all the whining so that the refs don't get pressured into making more bad calls.
 
I look at it this way, the NBA lost over $400,000,000 last year. They need to make that money up somewhere, so why not fine their employees. My understanding is that the price of a T escalates for each one after the first 5 or something. If we said that the average T cost $1500, then the refs would only need to call 266,666 T's this year for the league to break even. Be prepared for some serious free throw shooting.
 
These rules are absolutely garbage. Funny how they increased the technical money and changed the rules to make it easier to get a technical. Hmmm......
 
Dwill_PwnasaurasRex said:
Hopefully Tim Duncan's "ME?" face is considered an emotional outburst. I cant wait to see that get T'd up.
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He already got ejected for laughing on the bench.

In fact, what's hilarious is that they suspended Joey Crawford for a long time when that happened, and how officials are being encouraged to take on Joey's ridiculous, demonstrative behavior. Stern is such a dumbass.
 
oldtimer said:
I know everyone seems to hate the new rule assessing a technical for whining, but I love it. Nothing I hate more than watching Pau Gasol's goofy face whining about foul calls. For years it seemed the players who complained the most seemed to get all the calls. Kobe comes to mind. I used to wish the Jazz would complain more in order to get more calls later in the game. AK and memo don't have the complaining gene. It got so bad in the NBA you would watch players just smash guys and then complain to the refs as if they didn't do anything. You'd watch the replay and the guy they fouled would be lying on the floor bleeding. I hope the NBA fights the Players Association on this.

I am also sure that just like a few years ago when they tried to crack down on the complaining, the refs will ease up after the season starts, but it is much funner to watch games without all the whiny little babies.
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Kobe can still whine. I promise.
 
Surely said:
I look at it this way, the NBA lost over $400,000,000 last year. They need to make that money up somewhere, so why not fine their employees. My understanding is that the price of a T escalates for each one after the first 5 or something. If we said that the average T cost $1500, then the refs would only need to call 266,666 T's this year for the league to break even. Be prepared for some serious free throw shooting.
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The fine for a T is $10k each time, every time.
 
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