Coach Ellis
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As long as his price tag reflects this, I could live with that result. I still like Hood a lot and hope he makes a jump somewhere. I can see the potential for it, but climbing that ladder is up to him.
I think its time for another Hood sucks thread
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As long as his price tag reflects this, I could live with that result. I still like Hood a lot and hope he makes a jump somewhere. I can see the potential for it, but climbing that ladder is up to him.
JGolds
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I don't normally disagree with you... But on this I completely disagree. He has been in the NBA long enough we know what he is. Look at his advanced stats... He is terribly inefficient, and worse so through these 8 games than last year. Advanced stats say we don't gain anything with him on the floor vs a back up... He is a mid level talent and that is when his jump shot is on. When its not falling he looks like a G-league call up who is getting way too many minutes.
Holy **** some people are so dumb.
Hood had scored over 20 in 3 of the last 4 games before last night. He had been shooting lights out from 3 too (still is).
He isnt just going to magically turn into a reliable 1st option in the first month of being in that role. God damn give the dude some time.
Hood had scored over 20 in 3 of the last 4 games before last night. He had been shooting lights out from 3 too (still is).
He isnt just going to magically turn into a reliable 1st option in the first month of being in that role. God damn give the dude some time.
JGolds
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I'm not anti-advanced stats or anything, but they arent the end all be all. You need players like Hood who can just light it up and get their shot off over anyone. Freaking out because he had one bad game (when he was playing well prior) is absolute BS. We saw the same BS happen to Hayward in his first year being a "1st option". People want to over-scrutinize on a game to game basis. Let the dude play and get use to his new role.
Bradley Beal was very similar to Hood in his first 3 years and Hood can easily match Beal's 4th year this year. Only in his 5th year did Beal really turn into a good advanced stats player (as in, getting to the FT line) and now in his 6th year he appears to have taken another step.
This garbage about trading Hood is absolutely BS and again I'm embarrassed at this team's fans just like I was embarrassed when people cried about overpaying Hayward 4 years ago. Give him time.
And Hood is definitely trying to improve on his offensive weaknesses. He has gotten bigger and he has been driving the ball more, he just hasnt gotten the whistles yet. Maybe he learns, maybe he doesnt, but it makes no sense to give up on him now. Last night I thought he had a really good drive where he bumped Aminu off his spot on a drive and dished to Favors. I dont think Hood had the strength to make that play last year.
Jack Strop
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This.
If we had Hayward (healthy, of course), we'd be very happy with Hood. He'd be a complementary player and be averaging 15/per on open looks. Now that defenses are keying on him, he has too much pressure. And personality-wise, he just doesn't have that alpha mentality. The problem Utah now has is Mitchell IS an alpha and needs to start. So where does that leave Hood? Just can't afford to pay him $20M - or match whatever offer he gets and have him come off the bench, because defensively, he'd be a huge liability at the 3. I think the team would be better served moving Ingles to 6th man and finding a primary scorer at the 3.
And I'm not freaking out over 1 game. This is much like Dantley/Malone or Green/Stockton. A "veteran" is in the way of an even more promising young player. Hood may be on the rise, but Mitchell is a supernova. If Utah could keep everyone, yes, give Hood his $18-$20M. But they can't. You have to look at the financials next season and beyond.
JGolds
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Hood is a Crawford (type) player. You bring him off the bench and let him try to light you up. if he isn't making shots you bench him till the 4th and let him try again. 6th man role.
I will have to look up Beals stats. But i don't he was efficient and streaky and un-healthy as hood.
Oh, and I am not new to the dump Hood wagon. I've been here awhile. It's not his new role, its his play style.
Hood is shooting a career high from 3 even with the bad game last night. PER 100 possessions he is scoring a career best 28.2 point on career best 56 TS%. He is having a career best PER, even with a really bad game last night that has made his stats look pretty bad. If you through out last nights game and the game he is sick his stats are through the roof. He will keep having a career year this season. Its way too small of sample size to look at his VORP, BPM, WS. Our starting unit has struggled so far this season but I think they will get it going.
Honestly I think it was a bad move to pull him out last night. He should have kept shooting, unless he was sick or hurt. Shooters need to keep shooting.
I am not that big of fan of Hood but again there is no reason to panic with him right now. We should not trade him now, we should wait until the deadline when we know better what he is.
cmon. i don't think he will never average super high points, but he is not bad. not #1 option on offense but he can contribute.
not being #1 option doesn't mean he sucks
not being #1 option doesn't mean he sucks
Per 100 Hood vs Hayward at the same age:
Player Hood - Hayward
Points 28.2 - 28.8
FG% 41.7 - 43.3
3 pt% 44.1 - 34.9
TS% 56 - 55.9
assists 3.6 - 5.4
TOV 3.3 - 3.7
This is with Hood having a sick crappy game and this really bad game last night. I think as the season goes on and it averages out he will out perform what Hayward did at that same age. Also that is the second year in which Hayward had taken a larger role.
I think Hood can be a more efficient scorer than Hayward. We dont need him to play as large of a role either. The ball can be in other peoples hands more than we needed it to be in Haywards. We have dynamic players with the ball in Rubio and Mitchell. We just need hood to score efficiently. I am pretty happy with his 3 point shooting so far and I think it will get better as he gets used to his role and stays healthy.
Player Hood - Hayward
Points 28.2 - 28.8
FG% 41.7 - 43.3
3 pt% 44.1 - 34.9
TS% 56 - 55.9
assists 3.6 - 5.4
TOV 3.3 - 3.7
This is with Hood having a sick crappy game and this really bad game last night. I think as the season goes on and it averages out he will out perform what Hayward did at that same age. Also that is the second year in which Hayward had taken a larger role.
I think Hood can be a more efficient scorer than Hayward. We dont need him to play as large of a role either. The ball can be in other peoples hands more than we needed it to be in Haywards. We have dynamic players with the ball in Rubio and Mitchell. We just need hood to score efficiently. I am pretty happy with his 3 point shooting so far and I think it will get better as he gets used to his role and stays healthy.