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I woudn't give hayward more then 8m tbh.

Awesome how it is ok to post this blatantly racist ******** and it is accepted. If CJ posts anything remotely like this, he is crushed here. Oh wait, it is the normal double standard **** that is around now, cool. To pull a page from CJs book, Im sure if he was tatted up and talked more nonsense trash talk, he'd be your guy, pathetic.

Sticks and stones bro
 
Awesome how it is ok to post this blatantly racist ******** and it is accepted. If CJ posts anything remotely like this, he is crushed here. Oh wait, it is the normal double standard **** that is around now, cool. To pull a page from CJs book, Im sure if he was tatted up and talked more nonsense trash talk, he'd be your guy, pathetic.

Everyone ignored that stupid post until your comment...
 
This board has started to over-use the concepts of "first option," "second option," etc. More people need to realize how often first options need to be set up by a ballhandler. Hayward is good at that. You dont get a wing who's "third" in terms of buckets but who's great in transition, good at defense, and excellent at feeding others for less than 10 mil.
 
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This board has started to over-use the concepts of "first option," "second option," etc. More people need to realize how often first options need to be set up by a ballhandler. Burke is good at that, making one of Hayward's main skills redundant. You dont get a wing who's "third" in terms of buckets but who's great in transition, good at defense, and excellent at feeding others for less than 10 mil.

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They're seeing what happens when Hay's role is expanded. His lack of a pull-up jumper and inconsistent finishing is proving that his role needs to be trimmed. Fine. He's still a great piece. We're getting ready to define his role and his value.
 
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They're seeing what happens when Hay's role is expanded. His lack of a pull-up jumper and inconsist finishing is proving that his role needs to be trimmed. Fine. He's still a good but not great piece. We're getting ready to define his role and his value.

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I think thompson would look pretty meh without curry.

Likewise Hayward is going to look pretty damn good with a new stud to play next to.
 
I think thompson would look pretty meh without curry.

Likewise Hayward is going to look pretty damn good with a new stud to play next to.
This ^ right here. It's obvious that this team does not have a good coach or a #1 scoring option. I like the potential for all of the young guys to fill key roles or develop into stars if they add those two things. Because of this, I'm waiting until next year before I make up my mind of who they should build around or move on from.
 
Really tough to evaluate Hayward on this crappy team.

Even Lebron, Durants 1st 1-2 years being goto guy were horrible shooting. Takes a process. Remember not too long ago Lebron couldn't shoot in the 4th ?

With all that said, I think Hayward is a unique player , a tier 2 in his prime, tier 3 type option.

I think **someone will off 11-12 / year.

Jazz will need to decide if they want to match. No big deal it's a business.

No way het gets a MAX.

iJazz
 
He has always been a slow starter, looking at his numbers from the beginning of last season, it looks pretty similar to what he has been doing this year. Obviously any poor performance will get a lot more focus from now on as the training wheels are off.
 
He has always been a slow starter, looking at his numbers from the beginning of last season, it looks pretty similar to what he has been doing this year. Obviously any poor performance will get a lot more focus from now on as the training wheels are off.

I agree with this. I do think this adds to the argument that he isn't worth what he and his agent think he is though. Inconsistency really shouldn't be rewarded.
 
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