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I woudn't give hayward more then 8m tbh.

For 11 or 12 on a four year deal, I think you match. I think he's shown that he's a solid complimentary player and a solid 2nd/3rd option. Burke, Favors, Hayward and a top wing player from the draft sounds like a really good start toward building a legitimate playoff team. If Kanter/Gobert and/or Burks/Neto show anything. . . it's a bonus.
 
I think Hayward is struggling being such a focus this year.

Get Parker or Wiggins on this team, and make Hayward the 3rd option, and he will thrive again.

1/Parker-Wiggins 2/Burke 3/Hayward
 
For 11 or 12 on a four year deal, I think you match. I think he's shown that he's a solid complimentary player and a solid 2nd/3rd option. Burke, Favors, Hayward and a top wing player from the draft sounds like a really good start toward building a legitimate playoff team. If Kanter/Gobert and/or Burks/Neto show anything. . . it's a bonus.

Here is the problem for Hayward: if Utah would match a 4 year/12 per deal, and that is overpaying him, then no team will offer it to him. The only way you offer him a contract as a restricted FA is if you think you will get him. If the only way you will get him is to max him out, then no one will offer him a deal. I see Gordon sitting around next year waiting for a deal but not getting one.

I then see him signing a contract that starts at 9 per with Utah.
 
Honestly if I'm Lindsey and Hayward is hell stuck on a 8 figure deal I'd trade him. We had the same problem with Eric Gordon a couple years back. He wanted a max deal and wasn't even healthy enough to play for the team the whole year. Dell Demps decided not to trade him instead he gambled that no team would offer him the max and sure enough as all it takes is one GM the Suns signed him to a max deal and we were pressured to match. Now we are stuck with Gordon at a salary well beyond his impact or production. Moral of the story is it's better to be proactive than reactive and over paying usually doesn't work out.
 
My only fear that this contract is weighing on his mind way to much, and when he is paid he'll go back to his efficient 40% from three self. A team with a clear #1 (This years draft pick) plus Favors and Burke, I think Hayward could fit in VERY nicely there. So I might pay him a little more than it looks like he is worth.
 
I think thompson would look pretty meh without curry.

Likewise Hayward is going to look pretty damn good with a new stud to play next to.
I think I would disagree with this. Say Trey Burke or Derrick Favors developed to the point where they command double or triple teams, leaving Hayward wide open for 3's all game long, what makes you think he's even good enough to make those shots on a consistent basis? I think people just can't stop making excuses for the guy. At some point you need to realize, he just isn't an elite level shooter. For whatever reason, fans have it in their mind that Hayward has the shooting ability of a Korver, Hornacek, Larry Bird but because of this or that, he is unable to show this. Garbage.
 
Hypothetical here.

Let's say someone offers Hayward 12 mil a year. Would you let him walk and maybe throw some money at someone like Evan Turner. Maybe 8 mil for 3 years?
 
Say Trey Burke or Derrick Favors developed to the point where they command double or triple teams, leaving Hayward wide open for 3's all game long, what makes you think he's even good enough to make those shots on a consistent basis?
Did you miss his first 3 seasons? Dude was one of the best spot up shooters in the league last season.

A little intellectual honesty from you would be nice, if extremely unlikely.
 
Lots of folks where comparing Hayward before season to playes in 9-10mil/year range like Batum, DeRozan, Green, etc. and said that he is definitely way better and deserves more. Well guess what - if you look at this season stats he is no better then any of them . So unless he improves a lot that's what he is worth, south of 10mil.
 
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