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If KAT becomes available should Jazz be interested?

Unless you think Towns is in a drastically different place than Rudy or Don when we traded them (you could argue Don was much higher, but Rudy was close and actually got a similar//better package than Don), there really shouldn't be any mystery as to what the cost would be. We have two great ballpark examples.

I don't think a better player than Towns will become available that is also under long term deal, it's the best we'll get so if we are truly looking for a star he is probably the best guy we can go for. I don't have any concerns about a fit with Lauri, I do have concerns with his health and still some lingering concerns about his mentality....but I think he has matured some. If the franchise wants to get a lot better real soon, I think Towns is the best it will get.

I'm not sure paying the fair price is better than the tank route....with or without Lauri. If MIN is in a situation where Towns will be traded on a discount I think that is the more appealing option, but I think there will be a bidding war and Towns will yield a package that he's worth.
 
KqWIN said:
Unless you think Towns is in a drastically different place than Rudy or Don when we traded them (you could argue Don was much higher, but Rudy was close and actually got a similar//better package than Don), there really shouldn't be any mystery as to what the cost would be. We have two great ballpark examples.

I don't think a better player than Towns will become available that is also under long term deal, it's the best we'll get so if we are truly looking for a star he is probably the best guy we can go for. I don't have any concerns about a fit with Lauri, I do have concerns with his health and still some lingering concerns about his mentality....but I think he has matured some. If the franchise wants to get a lot better real soon, I think Towns is the best it will get.

I'm not sure paying the fair price is better than the tank route....with or without Lauri. If MIN is in a situation where Towns will be traded on a discount I think that is the more appealing option, but I think there will be a bidding war and Towns will yield a package that he's worth.
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That's not how trades work. If Minny trades KAT it's because they have to. Whenever you make a trade under those circumstances, you arent going to get the best offers.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
That's not how trades work. If Minny trades KAT it's because they have to. Whenever you make a trade under those circumstances, you arent going to get the best offers.
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I would say that your version is not how trades works. It's the highest bidder regardless of the incentive to sell. You're only going to get the discount if there are no other buyers.
 
Udidthizz said:
Minnesota wasn't significantly worse when KAT was out with injury this year, which should tell you enough about his impact on winning.
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Roster construction has a lot to do with this. KAT is very efficient, but Ant needs the ball and has become their number. And Gobert and KAT together has been a mixed bag.

Could KAT and Lauri persuade other players to sign here? I'm guessing it would be a tough sell, especially with what Minnesota would want back.

We'd have him for his "prime years" but his value will start declining a lot after a few seasons.

Obviously the answer should be based on what we have to give up to get him.

If you can trade Clarkson, Keyonte and a few picks, it may be worth it. A front court of KAT, Lauri and Hendricks could be decent on both ends. They'd also need a good floor general to be a top tier team.

My guess is Minn will demand more for him than he is worth.
 
Situation in Minny may become tricky.

If they make a run this year, they may consider to keep the same core and add one or two players to improve the team. They will probably trade Slomo.
But if they failed at first round, with the ownership battle where Lore and Rodriguez clearly stated that they do not want to pay the luxury taxes, they will not have much choice than trade KAT or another big salary. If it's the case, they may struggle to get the return they expect.
 
FrenchJazzFa said:
Situation in Minny may become tricky.

If they make a run this year, they may consider to keep the same core and add one or two players to improve the team. They will probably trade Slomo.
But if they failed at first round, with the ownership battle where Lore and Rodriguez clearly stated that they do not want to pay the luxury taxes, they will not have much choice than trade KAT or another big salary. If it's the case, they may struggle to get the return they expect.
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Well said
 
So, the whole premise of this thread is that KAT will fail at being a good second option for Minnesota. And then the Jazz will swoop in and make him the first option in Utah, with much worse role players to support him. And that is the way to the successful rebuild.
 
jazznik said:
So, the whole premise of this thread is that KAT will fail at being a good second option for Minnesota. And then the Jazz will swoop in and make him the first option in Utah, with much worse role players to support him. And that is the way to the successful rebuild.
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Yes and no. We are further away obviously so would realize bigger gains from having him than they would (well that would be the theory).

Idk… I was actually pleasantly surprised he fought the urge to melt down yesterday. The game was so physical and there were some obvious fouls that went uncalled. He kept himself way in check. Will continue to monitor but that’s been one of my issues with him was just inability to control his emotions.
 
This entire topic is an exercise in writing a super-long IF THEN statement.

IF Minnesota fails in the playoffs
AND IF Minnesota decides to trade Towns
AND IF another team wants to trade their own star
AND IF Minnesota wants their star instead of Towns
AND IF that another team does not want to trade for Towns directly
AND IF that another team wants a bunch of draft picks
AND IF that another team decides that the bunch that the Jazz have is the best bunch

THEN Should we trade for Towns?
 
jazznik said:
This entire topic is an exercise in writing a super-long IF THEN statement.

IF Minnesota fails in the playoffs
AND IF Minnesota decides to trade Towns
AND IF another team wants to trade their own star
AND IF Minnesota wants their star instead of Towns
AND IF that another team does not want to trade for Towns directly
AND IF that another team wants a bunch of draft picks
AND IF that another team decides that the bunch that the Jazz have is the best bunch

THEN Should we trade for Towns?
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Again, the Wolves are not trading KAT for a star. If they are trading him it's because it's an ownership issued mandate and the most important goal will be saving money.

Ideally the Wolves would want to take back as little current money as possible, a bonafide veteran on a good contract, draft pick(s)/rookie contract player(s), and expiring contracts.


For the Jazz that would probably look like Sexton and some combination of picks. I just dont think the Wolves would be interested in Collins salary, so that would make a trade tricky as you would have to route Collins to a 3rd team which would probably cost the Jazz.
 
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