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If next season is canceled, how is 2012 draft order determined?

TroutBum said:
Am I the only one who doesn't give a rats butt hole about the NBA, the Jazz, or anything related to basketball anymore? After Jerry left and the DWill drama, I really just don't give a crap anymore. Bring on the off season.
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That explains why you're regularly posting to a Jazz fan forum, right?
 
Jeffrey32 said:
The only fair thing would be to do a lottery where every team has an equal shot. 1 ball per team.
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That would be a nightmare. Nothing like giving the top teams an equal shot at what could be the best draft in a long time. When all of the top players pull out of this draft it could make that draft outstanding.
 
Hopefully next years draft and season get cancelled, and they keep the same odds from this season. If we could some how land Austin Rivers as our SG, it would be perfect.
 
I have to think they would use the 2011 standings again. There's no perfect solution, but I think that's most fair. I don't think there's any way to justify a scenario that has a top team getting a shot at a top pick (like a 30-team lottery). It's also unfair that a team's bad 2010-11 season gives them two top picks, because they might have improved in 2011-12, but it's more fair than the other way.
 
Kenwood said:
I have to think they would use the 2011 standings again. There's no perfect solution, but I think that's most fair. I don't think there's any way to justify a scenario that has a top team getting a shot at a top pick (like a 30-team lottery). It's also unfair that a team's bad 2010-11 season gives them two top picks, because they might have improved in 2011-12, but it's more fair than the other way.
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I think this is the most likely solution too. If that's the case the Golden State pick is probably 11, unless somehow the Jazz fall below them. Wouldn't it be strange if we ended up pushing our pick in a strong draft back by improving our pick in a weak draft? Do the Jazz get their own pick next year, or isn't it lottery protected like it will be this year?
 
Kenwood said:
I have to think they would use the 2011 standings again. There's no perfect solution, but I think that's most fair. I don't think there's any way to justify a scenario that has a top team getting a shot at a top pick (like a 30-team lottery). It's also unfair that a team's bad 2010-11 season gives them two top picks, because they might have improved in 2011-12, but it's more fair than the other way.
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Run the 2012 lottery with same odds as the 2011 lottery?
 
Pretty sure it would just be a do-over with the same draft order from this year since no season was played, or draft held, in the intervening year.
 
Not sure what you mean about no draft held, so I'll try to be perfectly clear in case I'm causing the confusion:
* In 2011, obviously they will use the 2010-11 standings to determine draft order. They will hold the draft, and those players' rights will belong to the team that drafted them in 2011. They may not sign contracts for a while, but they will remain the property of those teams until business resumes and the new CBA rules will apply to their contract dealings.
* If there is no 2011-12 season, I expect that they will again use the 2010-11 standings to determine draft order, but will probably run the lottery again (so there could be a different order in the top 14, but not 15-20).

If there's no NBA season at all next year, the Jazz could potentially have 4 lottery pick rookies in one season (2011: NJ and Utah picks, 2012: GS and Utah picks).
 
TroutBum said:
Am I the only one who doesn't give a rats butt hole about the NBA, the Jazz, or anything related to basketball anymore? Bring on the off season.
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....you forgot about me? So that makes two of us!!! (One correction, though....bring on the LOCKOUT!)
 
Kenwood said:
Not sure what you mean about no draft held, so I'll try to be perfectly clear in case I'm causing the confusion:
* In 2011, obviously they will use the 2010-11 standings to determine draft order. They will hold the draft, and those players' rights will belong to the team that drafted them in 2011. They may not sign contracts for a while, but they will remain the property of those teams until business resumes and the new CBA rules will apply to their contract dealings.
* If there is no 2011-12 season, I expect that they will again use the 2010-11 standings to determine draft order, but will probably run the lottery again (so there could be a different order in the top 14, but not 15-20).

If there's no NBA season at all next year, the Jazz could potentially have 4 lottery pick rookies in one season (2011: NJ and Utah picks, 2012: GS and Utah picks).
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* I assume you mean 15-30
**Since we owe Minny a 1st rounder, wouldn't that 2012 1st go to Minny?
 
The pick is top 14 protected in 2012, so the Jazz would (and probably will, regardless) keep it.
 
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