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If/once the season is cancelled, how will the draft play out?

The Thriller

The Thriller

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So what will happen? It would be awesome if the Jazz could cash in on someone like a Harrison Barnes or Teague...
 
Best answer is 'unknown.' There is plenty of speculation (throughout the Lockout thread), but there's only that at this point, imo.

*Maybe BOTH of Barnes and Teague ..
 
PKM said:
Best answer is 'unknown.' There is plenty of speculation (throughout the Lockout thread), but there's only that at this point, imo.

*Maybe BOTH of Barnes and Teague ..
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This is a legitimate possibility if the season is NOT canceled. If we lose the whole season, my gut is telling me our draft picks would get totally screwed over.
 
We only get the GS pick if it's 8th or lower, correct? I thought I remember seeing that it was top 7 protected.

I couldn't imagine they'd just give everybody the same lottery spots as last year. My guess is, they re-do the lottery with the same teams and odds as last year and everybody else drafts in the same spots.
 
Think of how many rookies area getting screwed over by Fisher and company. If all first round rookies get at least a 1 year guaranteed contract there will be no room in the league for the 2nd rounders of the 2011 and the 2012 draft.
 
reignman40 said:
Think of how many rookies area getting screwed over by Fisher and company. If all first round rookies get at least a 1 year guaranteed contract there will be no room in the league for the 2nd rounders of the 2011 and the 2012 draft.
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All 1st round picks do already get guaranteed contracts........
 
There's been a lot of speculation on other boards about the NBA doing something similar to what the NHL did. Which means they would average the last 3 seasons. Of course, there could be other factors weighed in, but this could be a nightmare scenario for the Jazz. Utah would most definately lose their own pick to the Wolves, and there's a good chance GS would keep their own pick. Utah could end up with no pick at all if the season is cancelled.

3 year average puts the GS pick at #6 and our own pick at about #18. We'd lose both picks. Our best hope would be that they don't weigh all three years equally, or they add some other criteria that would drop the GS pick to #8. I don't see any possible way to avoid losing our own pick.
 
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freakazoid said:
There's been a lot of speculation on other boards about the NBA doing something similar to what the NHL did. Which means they would average the last 3 seasons. Of course, there could be other factors weighed in, but this could be a nightmare scenario for the Jazz. Utah would most definately lose their own pick to the Wolves, and there's a good chance GS would keep their own pick. Utah could end up with no pick at all if the season is cancelled.

3 year average puts the GS pick at #6 and our own pick at about #18. We'd lose both picks. Our best hope would be that they don't weigh all three years equally, or they add some other criteria that would drop the GS pick to #8. I don't see any possible way to avoid losing our own pick.
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That's not what the NHL did.
 
SalmonHobo said:
That's not what the NHL did.
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What did they do? I'm not a big hockey fan, I'm just repeating some of what I've read. Anyway, we can only guess as to how the NBA would handle the situation. Regardless of what they did in the NHL, I'm only speculating on some of what I've been reading.

Bucher reported earlier that if the season is canceled, the likely scenario for the draft is that the last 3 seasons will be used to determine the order. the worst 14 teams would be allocated odds and a lottery for the top 3 picks would be done as usual (Bucher said that the odds wouldn't be the same as the regular lottery).
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Anyway, I guess this is all pretty pointless if they get a deal done tonight. Hopefully that'll be the case.
 
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jazzman12 said:
We only get the GS pick if it's 8th or lower, correct? I thought I remember seeing that it was top 7 protected.

I couldn't imagine they'd just give everybody the same lottery spots as last year. My guess is, they re-do the lottery with the same teams and odds as last year and everybody else drafts in the same spots.
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top 8 protected this year, top 7 next year i think, im not sure though
 
freakazoid said:
What did they do? I'm not a big hockey fan, I'm just repeating some of what I've read. Anyway, we can only guess as to how the NBA would handle the situation. Regardless of what they did in the NHL, I'm only speculating on some of what I've been reading.



Anyway, I guess this is all pretty pointless if they get a deal done tonight. Hopefully that'll be the case.
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Without looking it up, I believe what they did was allocate each team a lottery ball for each season they didn't make the playoffs. Those teams were then entered into the lottery. Most teams would be in this lottery as most teams did not make the playoffs in one of the last three seasons. Instead of your typical 14 teams, I would guess, it would therefore be more like 20 teams in the lottery. We would be one of those teams since we did not make the playoffs last season. The remaining teams (Lakers, Mavs, etc.) would then go in order based purely on record. Or something like that I think.
 
That 3-year average scenario would've been a nightmare for more teams than just us. Cleveland would be screwed and Miami actually would've had a decent pick.
 
....my agents tell me that if the season is cancelled....Jefferson gets drafted by the AND1 league and plays with "hot sauce"....and Gordan gets drafted and plays with the "Professor"!
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
So you are saying it has to be that way, correct?
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I was just making a speculation comment on what was posted above. I don't know how it is suppose to play out, merely stating that if that scenario did play out it would be extremely unfair to a lot of teams.
 
dipship31 said:
That 3-year average scenario would've been a nightmare for more teams than just us. Cleveland would be screwed and Miami actually would've had a decent pick.
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If my "sources" are correct, Cleveland has the option of switching picks w/ Miami.
 
Scenarios for the 2012 draft:

Lose/Lose scenario: Jazz have no 1st round picks and the age-limit stays the same (or even worse - reduced)

No win/No lose scenario (AKA the "hello 2013 draft" scenario): Jazz have no 1st rounders, but the age limit is increased

Win/Lose scenario: Jazz have 1 or 2 first round picks, but the age-limit is increased

Win/Win scenario: Jazz have 2 first round picks and the age-limit stays the same

Win/Win/Win scenario (AKA the Michael Scott scenario): Jazz have 2 first round picks and the age-limit is decreased.
 
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