If one of our players became a star?

[Doublea]

I've seen a lot of people on this board complaining that the Jazz are playing too good, that they are ruining their chances for a star player. But what if we have some in the making already? I just think that if one of our players starting putting up great numbers and improving, a lot of people would complain about it.

I find it interesting, even though I hate the Paul George and Gordon Hayward comparison, how similar their stats our with similar roles on their teams. I know this is a small sample size and I am in no way suggesting that Hayward and George are on the same level, just some food for thought. These are their stats in years that they are asked to be the number 1 option.

That being said, if we add a top player from the draft, we have an even brighter future.

 

[Archie Moses]

If they became a star, they'd probably be watched by tons of dudes on porn sites.

Just sayin'.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

I've seen a lot of people on this board complaining that the Jazz are playing too good, that they are ruining their chances for a star player. But what if we have some in the making already? I just think that if one of our players starting putting up great numbers and improving, a lot of people would complain about it.

I find it interesting, even though I hate the Paul George and Gordon Hayward comparison, how similar their stats our with similar roles on their teams. I know this is a small sample size and I am in no way suggesting that Hayward and George are on the same level, just some food for thought. These are their stats in years that they are asked to be the number 1 option.

That being said, if we add a top player from the draft, we have an even brighter future.

Wow. The similarities in those numbers is crazy.

 

[DJB]

^ Good post, very interesting reading into that

 

[Deleted member 365]

If only stats told the whole story.

There's also those pesky things called intangibles. You know, leadership, toughness, etc.

 

[Doublea]

If only stats told the whole story.

There's also those pesky things called intangibles. You know, leadership, toughness, etc.

Exactly, what edges do you think George has over Hayward?

 

[fgcamel]

Haywards intangibles are one of his greatest assets imo.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Exactly, what edges do you think George has over Hayward?

A lot.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Haywards intangibles are one of his greatest assets imo.

Like being bullied by Delonte West or JJ Barea? Definitely the toughness that wins championships. I could see MJ letting John Starks give him a wet willey...

Anyone who even attempts to compare these 2 players has obviously never seen George play or is just grabbing at straws here.

Hayward is a nice role player who scores a lot off opportunistic tip ins and fast break pts: George is one of the best players in the league. You can run your offense through him.

One good game against a crappy OKC team (lost 4 of 6) clearly overlooking the Jazz doesn't make Hayward God. These boards are so desperate for optimism that they've completely given up trying to be objective.

 

[Primetime]

And here are the stats for Georges compared to Gordons first 37 games of that season:

And here are the advanced stats:

I really like these numbers. Gordon while having a higher USG%, has a lower TO Ratio and a higher AST%. He is not rebounding the ball as good as George and has a lower 3FG%. And his eFG% and TS% is not as bad as we might think because he is getting more to the free throw line. Let's see how he continues.

 

[fgcamel]

Like being bullied by Delonte West or JJ Barea? Definitely the toughness that wins championships. I could see MJ letting John Starks give him a wet willey...

Anyone who even attempts to compare these 2 players has obviously never seen George play or is just grabbing at straws here.

Hayward is a nice role player who scores a lot off opportunistic tip ins and fast break pts: George is one of the best players in the league. You can run your offense through him.

I was thinking more of his hustle, his motor and his composure to not let dirtbags like west get to him.

 

[Doublea]

Like being bullied by Delonte West or JJ Barea? Definitely the toughness that wins championships. I could see MJ letting John Starks give him a wet willey...

Anyone who even attempts to compare these 2 players has obviously never seen George play or is just grabbing at straws here.

Hayward is a nice role player who scores a lot off opportunistic tip ins and fast break pts: George is one of the best players in the league. You can run your offense through him.

One good game against a crappy OKC team (lost 4 of 6) clearly overlooking the Jazz doesn't make Hayward God. These boards are so desperate for optimism that they've completely given up trying to be objective.

Obviously George's team was better then Hayward's this year, but if they are putting up the same numbers isn't that intriguing? Only time will tell most likely next year too.

Personally I'd rather have a cool headed player like Hayward, then one who is crazy like Cousins who hurts his team. Hayward's play gets into peoples heads.