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If we get a shooting guard at 12 - PICK Thompson

I agree, people on this forum make Hayward into the next Larry Bird. Yes, he improved greatly over the last two weeks of the season, but the Jazz were completely out of the race, we only had 8 players on some of the games, and there was no one left at SG. I can't imagine Hayward ever averaging more than 12 PPG.

Your reply has nothing to do with Dwill's post. Good job though.
 
Leonard and Biyombo will most likely be gone by 12.

Singleton should definitely be considered.

I don't understand why so many jazz fans consider Hayward untouchable. If we're sitting at 12 and the best player available is a SG/SF, we'd be retarded to not draft him.

The worst case scenario would be that both Hayward and our draft pick develop well and compete against each other. Strengthening our bench and then becoming trade bait later on.

Horrible thought I know.

So lets keep it real. Lets send Hayward to the Dleague to develop and lets continue with Raja and AK. We all know they'll be all stars together if they can stay healthy. And we'll win the championship once Al Jefferson learns the offense...

Serious Question. Are you on any meds?
 
I wouldn't mind Thompson at 12, but if they go with a wing at that spot I'd rather see them take Burks/Hamilton/Singleton if they're there. Burks has more versatility and play making. Hamilton/Singleton also have more versatility and play more physical.
 
I thought I read some Washington State alum post in the draft thread that Thompson crumbled under pressure or something. I don't remember exactly, there've been a lot of posts in that thread, but I thought he was pretty down on him. Maybe he'll show up in this thread to warn us against him. Or maybe there's nothing to worry about and he'll be a stud. Nice pedigree.

Watch his ESPN combine interview. Kid was as nervous as anyone I've ever seen. How can you make good crunch time decisions when you clam up like that?

I was impressed with what I saw at the combine though.
 
Watch his ESPN combine interview. Kid was as nervous as anyone I've ever seen. How can you make good crunch time decisions when you clam up like that?

I was impressed with what I saw at the combine though.

Ick. I don't like his vibe.
 
You guys are seriously basing your opinions on interviews?

In that case, you folks would have never drafted John Stockton. The dude refused to do interviews. And when he did them, he tried his hardest to answer the questions in the shortest way possible.

Listening to Karl Malone, you would have never thought he was a hard worker. You would have thought that he was just another Kwuame Brown who didn't give a damn about anything (especially how to speak).

Yeah, Carlos Boozer does a good interview. But what about his play?

I could care less what these guys sound like on tv. Favors, Jefferson, etc all sound retarded. What I care about, and what you folks should care about, is what happens when a basketball is placed in his hands.
 
You can tell a lot about a person from an interview. Also, Boozer never helped himself in an interview. It's not what he said - it was what he didn't say, and you could actually see the wheels turning in his head, calculating what persona he wanted to portray to his audience. Mr PR man tried to look like a nice guy but the facade did little to hide his narcissism.

Thompson was less polished than Boozer - which is a good thing so we can see who he really is. But I wasn't liking who I was seeing.

Stockton was extremely guarded and yet everyone absolutely loved the guy. Again, it's not what he said, nor what he chose not to say. It's something else. Call it a "vibe" if you will. Stockton's and Kobe's vibes are completely opposite and in spite of his talent I'd never want Kobe and his icky vibe on my Jazz.

So yeah, I've crossed Klay Thompson off my draft board. It wasn't like he was that high anyway, and more importantly, it's not like it matters who's on or off my board either. My name isn't Kevin O'Connor.
 
Favors, Jefferson, etc all sound retarded. What I care about, and what you folks should care about, is what happens when a basketball is placed in his hands.
You're unknowingly disproving your own point. Favors sounds QUIET, but Jefferson IS a little retarded.
 
I agree, people on this forum make Hayward into the next Larry Bird. Yes, he improved greatly over the last two weeks of the season, but the Jazz were completely out of the race, we only had 8 players on some of the games, and there was no one left at SG. I can't imagine Hayward ever averaging more than 12 PPG.

Two weeks? No, two months. He led the league in 3pt % after February first. Sure, he didn't take some ridiculous amount, but he was more than efficient and more often than not took the best shot available or gave the ball up if they had a better one. He made great decisions the last few months, did an excellent job of staying in front of his man on D, and didn't look like the scared puppy that he was through January. He put on some muscle, improved his footwork, and did some pretty great things with the ball when he penetrated, whether it was getting himself to the basket or setting up a teammate. Sure, he still made plenty of mistakes, but he's a rookie. No, I don't want him bringing the ball down the court on a regular basis, but he has excellent court vision and is becoming very versatile with and without the ball. Nobody is saying he's going to be one of the 50 greatest players of all time, or that he's going to be a Hall of Famer, but he's shown flashes of being a VERY good player.

As for the SG-SF thing and Hayward being designated as nothing but a shooting guard, why? Ideally, we get a 2-3 rotation that's four or five guys deep so we can bring different players in for situational purposes. I'm absolutely on the starting Elder at the 2 bandwagon, but there's no reason to believe that we can't play him at both positions in the right circumstances. It's all about match-ups and situational substitutions. I think Ty is a smart enough guy to realize that, so having a few different players for a few different situations. Nothing wrong with drafting a guy like Thompson who can come in off the bench and hit some shots, or a guy like Singleton who can come in and be a lock down defender in a situation where Elder or whoever our starting 3 is can't handle their man. Having specialty players off the bench to come in and help your starters when an aspect of their game isn't up to par is exactly what championship contending teams do. As for Thompson not being clutch...who cares? There are only a handful of players who are, and more often than not they're starters and that's why they're in at the end of the game. Thompson isn't going to be playing the last five minutes of a game for a playoff team, so let him watch from the bench and study, maybe he'll learn from the situation. There's a handful of worthy guys at the 12 spot (Singleton, Jimmer, Thompson, Burks, Hamilton, crossing my fingers for a Biyombo or Leonard to fall), but they more than likely aren't going to be All-Stars. Draft someone that you think can be a good role player, someone that fills a need, and be happy that you've just taken another step in the rebuilding process, and hopefully towards being able to put a team on the floor who can compete with the best.
 
I will gloat and say i was the the first to say thompson should be oir 12 th pick somewhere around page 50 of te draft thread. Sure no one give a damn, but just saying. I see him as kevin martin part deux. I see tons of pac10 games living in vegas. We get ucla feeds. This guy is the real deal.
 
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