I'll show you mine if you show me yours....

[PearlWatson]

Pro-life but believe abortion should be illegal

Okay

 

[colton]

Otherwise I share a hodge-podge of opinions with both left and right, and I think the worst thing we can do is to blindly accept one ideology in it's entirety, as it is highly unlikely that only one side (the right or the left) has all the answers.

I agree completely. It really bugs me when people agree blindly with everything their party says/does.

 

[VINYLONE]

Okay

Amended. Thank you.

 

[VINYLONE]

I agree completely. It really bugs me when people agree blindly with everything their party says/does.

That's Umerica. It's been that way for a long time.

 

[Mission Accomplished]

First, I think that Obama is the first person that doesn't have the puppet hand so far up his $@$ that he is trying to deal with and really solve our problems.
Second, what do those who think that they are fiscal conservative believe that means? Do you support Milton Freedmen's idea of the trickle down effect. I would recommend a documentary called "one percent" it is by one of the heirs to the Johnson and Johnson fortune. I feel that Obama is misjudged by a lot of wrong information that is being pushed by the conservatives via Fox News which isn't a news channel at all it is a giant propaganda machine.
Third, what are the reasons behind the utter distain for the Health Care bill that Obama helped to pass which is modeled after MIT Romney's identical plan. I would call myself leaning far left. But, what I really like is politicians that don't have the taint of corruption on them.
I like people like Wiener, Obama, and Nader. I'm Mormon and I believe abortion is wrong; I also believe drinking, smoking, and premarital sex is wrong. But, I believe there should be a separation of my belief and trying to force my moral on society that is why I'm prochoice. I do feel like we are giving corporations too much power and we are reducing workers rights. I have a BA in Business Administration so I do believe that Capitalism is a great thing...until you stop regulating them and then I believe that business will not regulate itself. I can see the gap increasing between the rich and the poor. I also believe that the middle class is being destroyed.

 

[VINYLONE]

KB, I believe in capitalism. Its not a perfect system, but its the best one out there. The problem is that the system is governed by man and man, by nature, is a ****ing idiot. Capitalism ONLY works when there is risk and reward. Risk being the mitigating factor of true success.

In short, bailouts are complete and utter ********. Iceland got it right. We didn't.

 

[Mission Accomplished]

KB, I believe in capitalism. Its not a perfect system, but its the best one out there. The problem is that the system is governed by man and man, by nature, is a ****ing idiot. Capitalism ONLY works when there is risk and reward. Risk being the mitigating factor of true success.

In short, bailouts are complete and utter ********. Iceland got it right. We didn't.

I also believe in Capitalism as the best system out there. But, what is at the heart of Capitalism human greed and just like you said earlier man is an idiot. So, what are they going to do when the $$$ start flowing find ways to make $$$$. Now, according to Capitalism businesses will then be to govern themselves. Sure that seems to make sense that they want consumers to buy their goods and their reputation is based on how their govern themselves. But, like you said man is an idiot they want the $$$ most don't look at longterm plan. Why because they are out to make the $$$ while they can. Lets look at some recent examples...BP, GM, Goldman Sach, any bank that was pushing home loans to those who can't qualify for just to make $$$$, and GE. Now what happens when a Republican gets into office? They start crying that these companies are regulated to harshly by the government and that they can self regulate. Then after they gut the regulator committees then boom just like in sports we let the inmate run the prisions.

 

[LogGrad98]

Notice in our little very unscientific poll that the moderates have it. I think that is fairly representative of America in general. Most people are moderate in their views (and really you can put many independents in that bucket too).

From this poll, taking all votes into account, it appears we are mostly moderate with a slight right lean, and many of us enjoy a good cheese.

 

[VINYLONE]

I also believe in Capitalism as the best system out there. But, what is at the heart of Capitalism human greed and just like you said earlier man is an idiot. So, what are they going to do when the $$$ start flowing find ways to make $$$$. Now, according to Capitalism businesses will then be to govern themselves. Sure that seems to make sense that they want consumers to buy their goods and their reputation is based on how their govern themselves. But, like you said man is an idiot they want the $$$ most don't look at longterm plan. Why because they are out to make the $$$ while they can. Lets look at some recent examples...BP, GM, Goldman Sach, any bank that was pushing home loans to those who can't qualify for just to make $$$$, and GE. Now what happens when a Republican gets into office? They start crying that these companies are regulated to harshly by the government and that they can self regulate. Then after they gut the regulator committees then boom just like in sports we let the inmate run the prisions.

Be careful that you don't view the world through a prism of absolutism. Things can change and as ridiculous as this sounds, it starts with you, how you interact with others and how you raise your children, if you have any. Dealing with folks on a fair basis and not partaking in the grift that is now so heavily intertwined in our society.

 

[Scat]

Notice in our little very unscientific poll that the moderates have it. I think that is fairly representative of America in general. Most people are moderate in their views (and really you can put many independents in that bucket too).

I tend to believe that this is a little oversimplified. I'm of the opinion that most people think they are moderate. People think that their views are normal and anything to the right or left of them must be extreme.

 

[Mission Accomplished]

Be careful that you don't view the world through a prism of absolutism. Things can change and as ridiculous as this sounds, it starts with you, how you interact with others and how you raise your children, if you have any. Dealing with folks on a fair basis and not partaking in the grift that is now so heavily intertwined in our society.

Whoa that was kind of a weird reply to my thought ??

especially because you used the same type of absolutes in when you talked about that capitalism cannot be governed because man is imperfect.

 

[LogGrad98]

I tend to believe that this is a little oversimplified. I'm of the opinion that most people think they are moderate. People think that their views are normal and anything to the right or left of them must be extreme.

If you think about it, the prevailing opinion would be the definition of "moderate". If everyone thought the same way as Bill Maher then die-hard leftism would be the moderate stance. At one point the Nazis were the moderate stance in germany. So you have a point, it is about what people think about their beliefs. But when enough people think enough alike to affect policy or elections it does start painting a picture.

It also helps to put things in somewhat predefined terms. For the most part it is recognized what it means to be liberal or conservative. It is mostly recognized what being left or right of center means. So in a poll like this, where people self-identify in an anonymous fashion, you can assume they are comparing their views to the generally accepted norms, or at least to their view of those topics that they find most important.

I have a friend who says he is a die-hard republican, but in talking to him I found out he is really just very very very anti-abortion and therefore has lumped the rest in with that, even though on many other important points he disagrees with the general republican stance. That is his hot topic and how he defines his political leaning. But again it is how he relates his views to others based on what we recognize as being conservative or liberal viewpoints.