"In retrospect, King won the Williams' trade in a landslide."

[margodydek]

If the Nets were winners, then they would have improved last season (which they didn't), and we would have been worse (we were better). *drops mic and walks away*

 

[nightmare3983]

Honestly, Humphries/Lopez is one of the worst frontcourt duos in the NBA.

I mean, our team is just as bad on defense, but at least our guys rebounds.

Humphries has been a very good rebounder the last few years. Lopez, not so much.

 

[nightmare3983]

They don't have to but I sure enjoy it when it seems like KOC won the battle.

This.

 

[Stifle Tower]

If the Nets succeed in bringing in Dwight Howard to team with DWill, then I'd say they won the trade. Until then, they're a capped-out, lux-tax paying team that's going to go out in the 1st or 2nd round of the playoffs. In other words, they'll plateau where the Jazz did before we traded DWill. The Jazz needed to rebuild if they wanted to go deeper in the playoffs. The Jazz basically did 75% of that rebuild with the Nets trade alone. So I don't think you can say the Jazz lost that trade, whether or not DWill was going to re-sign in Utah. Honestly, I don't think the front office wanted to keep DWill and his attitude at max money.

I agree. I wouldn't consider giving Wallace a 4/$40M deal, taking on the bloated contract of Johnson and extending Lopez at the MAX a "landslide win."

On the other hand, the Jazz received Favors, Kanter and a likely late-lottery pick from GS. We also have parlayed Harris into Marvin Williams. Let's see what Deron's production will be relative to Derrick, Enes and Marvin.

They are a capped-out team. I don't see them ever competing for a title with their line-up. Yes, the Jazz are rebuilding. In much the same way the Melo trade worked out for Denver, the Deron trade is working for Utah. Trading a superstar and strengthening 2-3 other positions may result in a stronger team. We got fewer NBA-ready assets than Denver did. But on the other hands, we got assets that had better potential upside.

Also have to figure in the result of having Kanter and Enes on rookie contracts, with Marvin at $8M vs. a MAX deal for Deron. That allows KOC to pick up another starter or 6th man at $8-$10M. So basically 4 players for the price of one PG. Deron is a talented player, but there was no way we could have built a "Big-3" model around him in Utah, especailly considering the Big-3 model only works if you can get several solid vets to sign for the minimun for a chance to win a title.

 

[Weezur]

All Billy King did was overpay some fringe All Star players and ridiculously overpay D Will.
But it doesn't matter, because the rich Russian guy has big pockets. So much for the new CBA.

 

[mfree]

Log run - short run.

Ask in five years.

 

[Stifle Tower]

All Billy King did was overpay some fringe All Star players and ridiculously overpay D Will.
But it doesn't matter, because the rich Russian guy has big pockets. So much for the new CBA.

But if the Nets end up in the luxury tax, Prokhorov will have to pay a penalty. Take it out of his deep Russian pockets and into the hands of American owners. It would decrease the trade deficit and improve the economy. Win for all of us!

 

[jimmy eat jazz]

Someone may have already noted this, but this is the wrong way to think about this trade. If the Jazz had not traded D-Will, the most likely outcome would have been losing him to free agency without anything in return. Not the certain outcome, but the most likely one. Thus, getting Harris (who was flipped for M. Williams), Favors, and Kanter instead of getting a big fat nothing is a pretty damned good trade from the Jazz perspective, regardless of how well NJ fared in the deal.

Somebody needs to tutor this guy on the concept of 'opportunity cost.'

 

[Weezur]

But if the Nets end up in the luxury tax, Prokhorov will have to pay a penalty. Take it out of his deep Russian pockets and into the hands of American owners. It would decrease the trade deficit and improve the economy. Win for fat cats!

Fixed.

 

[Jeffrey32]

Honestly, Humphries/Lopez is one of the worst frontcourt duos in the NBA.

I mean, our team is just as bad on defense, but at least our guys rebounds.

Humphries is one of the best rebounders in the NBA. I think Lopez will be better at it this year as well.

 

[green]

So, the Nets how have 2 or 3 of the most overpaid players in the NBA?

W.I.N.

 

[Stifle Tower]

Humphries is one of the best rebounders in the NBA. I think Lopez will be better at it this year as well.

They have a 2-yr window. After that, the luxuiry tax is really going to kill them. Unless, of course, they can get a sucker to take on the Wallace contract and then replace him and Krissy with a couple of minimum salary vets who want to play in Brooklyn for a shot at a title. Hey, not every vet can sign with Miami or LA...it just seems that way.