"In retrospect, King won the Williams' trade in a landslide."

[Former Member]

The Nets are lucky DWill resigned otherwise it would have been one of the most lopsided trades in NBA History. I still consider the Jazz the 'winner' of the trade (Even though both teams 'won') because...

A) I think Favors is going to become the best player in this trade.

B) D-Will hasn't proven that he can carry a team by himself. In fact, The Nets have been horrible since the DWill trade.

C) Dwight will probably become a Laker. Meaning that the Nets will not have a 'big three' and will probably not be able to get past the Heat, or Celtics. In other words, they are not a championship caliber team.

D)Devin Harris did not do great for the Jazz, but we flipped him for Marvin Williams. Who, in all likelyhood, will become the starting small forward on the Jazz for awhile.

E)Its too early to tell how the assets of Enes Kanter and GS Pick turn out. I still have high hopes for Kanter.

F) I would rather build an NBA team around a Big (Favors) then a point guard (Williams).

 

[sepanol]

Then its a win win situation for both sides, because if we didnt trade D will, we would have been LOST by margin at this point. Instead of having nothing at all, we have Favors and Kanter at least, and the flexibility to load Big Al.(i doubt we will get any good piece in return of him though)

 

[freakazoid]

Those guys were watching us play last time somebody was on the court.

Were they laughing their asses off?

I don't know what series you watched, but I didn't see anything to brag about.

 

[margodydek]

1) Jazz got rid of a malcontent coach-killer for two starting bigs (eventually), a starting SF (essentially) and a future pick (not to mention $3M) = Win

2) NJ got a "superstar" who decided to stay long-term = Win

3) NJ was still awful last year and will still struggle to win 50 games and is destined to be a 1st or 2nd round exit for the forseeable future = Win

Michael Scott would be proud.

 

[oyster]

If the Nets were winners, then they would have improved last season (which they didn't), and we would have been worse (we were better). *drops mic and walks away*

*then walks over to ex girlfriend, roundhouse kicks boyfriend in the side of his caranium and says "thats what I think bitch" and drives off in Bugatti*

 

[Brown Notes]

Were they laughing their asses off?

I don't know what series you watched, but I didn't see anything to brag about.

Try to find a team that tanked more effectively while trading away their unprotected pick. If you, especially you, think that's a position to be chuckling at Utah, you need to get your head examined, tank commander.

 

[shadler]

Think the nets have to worry about making the playoffs first before they do a lot of talking. Not like they will win more then what the jazz did when they had dwill. They better win because if they don't they are going to have one hell of a disgruntled player on their hand for a long time.

 

[t.work]

1) Jazz got rid of a malcontent coach-killer for two starting bigs (eventually), a starting SF (essentially) and a future pick (not to mention $3M) = Win

2) NJ got a "superstar" who decided to stay long-term = Win

3) NJ was still awful last year and will still struggle to win 50 games and is destined to be a 1st or 2nd round exit for the forseeable future = Win

Michael Scott would be proud.

New Jersey is also the reason Utah was able to get Mo Williams this year (Mehmet Okur).

 

[Stifle Tower]

New Jersey is also the reason Utah was able to get Mo Williams this year (Mehmet Okur).

So we robbed them twice.

On the other hand, when I lived in New York, we used to joke that Jersey was the place where everyone dumped their trash. Utah did it twice.


My apologies to the great people in the Garbage State, I mean Garden State. Seriously, you get away from the cities on the eastern border (Newark, Jersey City, etc.), and the rest of the state is actually quite beautiful.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

There is no retrospect. Deron signed so they got that going for them. When they start winning they can start talking. Those guys were watching us play last time somebody was on the court.

It's not like they were winning before the trade, or had any near future of being a winning team.

 

[freakazoid]

Jazzfanz. Where bragging about getting swept happens.

Meanwhile, that pathetic Nets team actually ended up with a better road record than Utah. 13-20 compared to our 11-22. They also had a lot of injuries to deal with. But I guess when you're looking through homer glasses, you can be selective with which wins actually count. The comment about winning the trade in a landslide was pretty stupid, but I still find it funny that some people feel the need to puff out their chest and compare the two teams as if Utah was so much better last year. They were not.

It's not like they were winning before the trade, or had any near future of being a winning team.

That only counts when applying it to Utah.


https://basketball.realgm.com/article/222497/2012_13_NBA_Power_Rankings

8) Brooklyn Nets -- Deron Williams, the NBA’s top point guard, has never played with a core as talented as Joe Johnson, Gerald Wallace and Brook Lopez. However, without much interior defense, the Nets will have to hope they can sneak back into the Howard discussions in January to have a chance of contending for a title.

14) Utah Jazz -- Utah GM Kevin O’Connor has done a masterful job of staying competitive while rebuilding, but it might get awkward this season. Derrick Favors is ready for a featured role and Enes Kanter needs minutes while Al Jefferson and Paul Millsap are in the last years of their contracts. Mo Williams’ perimeter shooting could be a good fit on a team with so much post scoring.

Read more: https://basketball.realgm.com/article/222497/2012_13_NBA_Power_Rankings#ixzz21BvrvX9E

 

[margodydek]

Jazzfanz. Where bragging about getting swept happens.

Meanwhile, that pathetic Nets team actually ended up with a better road record than Utah. 13-20 compared to our 11-22. They also had a lot of injuries to deal with. But I guess when you're looking through homer glasses, you can be selective with which wins actually count. The comment about winning the trade in a landslide was pretty stupid, but I still find it funny that some people feel the need to puff out their chest and compare the two teams as if Utah was so much better last year. They were not.



That only counts when applying it to Utah.


https://basketball.realgm.com/article/222497/2012_13_NBA_Power_Rankings




Read more: https://basketball.realgm.com/article/222497/2012_13_NBA_Power_Rankings#ixzz21BvrvX9E

Call me old fashioned, but I generally include all the games when I judge a team. I know this goes against the new trend of only looking at road records, but we won 36 out of 66 games last year (.545), while the mighty road warriors of NJ won a total of 22 out of 66 games (.333). Hope you don't mind if I threw in the 33 home games they played. I know they don't matter as much, but I still thought they should be included.