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Interesting breakdown video of Hayward

Mission Accomplished said:
ummmm no I've seen Horney this Gordon Hayward guy ain't Horney....not even close
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHqgHFcmAOc

Hornacek was a great 2 for us, but he was never what Hayward is all around. Don't let idolatry and pining for the past cloud your judgement.
 
Didn't watch the video, but since there's enough Hayward/Hornacek talk here, and elsewhere, I'll go ahead and give my two cents: there's only one way I'd specifically compare Hayward to Hornacek and it's not really in basketball. Rather, it's his value and role he plays for the team. If you were to look at Hornacek's numbers from his years with us they are certainly good. However, they significantly underestimate the effect he had on the game of you were familiar with watching any of those teams. His presence was much larger than those numbers. He was the perfect complementary piece to John and Karl. Being next to them, he looked really good (not that he didn't look really good elsewhere). I think this is where the specific Hayward comparison, in my mind, comes in to play. Not skillets, per sé, but I think when he's a Robin to our (fingers crossed) Jabari Batman, he's going to look very good. His numbers will be roughly the same (but better percentages and maybe a minor bump in scoring), but he'll look much more polished and it will become a defensive challenge for opposing teams.
 
infection said:
Didn't watch the video, but since there's enough Hayward/Hornacek talk here, and elsewhere, I'll go ahead and give my two cents: there's only one way I'd specifically compare Hayward to Hornacek and it's not really in basketball. Rather, it's his value and role he plays for the team. If you were to look at Hornacek's numbers from his years with us they are certainly good. However, they significantly underestimate the effect he had on the game of you were familiar with watching any of those teams. His presence was much larger than those numbers. He was the perfect complementary piece to John and Karl. Being next to them, he looked really good (not that he didn't look really good elsewhere). I think this is where the specific Hayward comparison, in my mind, comes in to play. Not skillets, per sé, but I think when he's a Robin to our (fingers crossed) Jabari Batman, he's going to look very good. His numbers will be roughly the same (but better percentages and maybe a minor bump in scoring), but he'll look much more polished and it will become a defensive challenge for opposing teams.
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Shoulda watched the video, because he was only compared in like the last 6 seconds. Interesting points though.
 
Anything over $9mil is too much. I keep saying it, but his direct comparison in many ways is Batum and I'd take him over Hayward 10/10 times.
 
Bodhi said:
Anything over $9mil is too much. I keep saying it, but his direct comparison in many ways is Batum and I'd take him over Hayward 10/10 times.
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And I believe Batum makes 11 or 12 million a year, might be overpayed for what he's actually worth, but thats the market
 
Hayward's shot has more problems than his thumb influencing his release. When he came into the league, his release on his shot was sooo slow. He has speed up his release, but it has caused other problems. He's often off balance and and if you watch his shot, he leans alot to the side. If he worked on his release, and worked on his foot work, he would be a much better shooter.
 
My favorite line is that "if he corrects his shot he could be in line of a contract extension like Lance Stephenson and Eric Bledsoe". Most Jazz fans would tell you that he is already better than both but I've really started to question that this year. Sad but true.
 
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