LOL. I am sure you get your information from FOX News. President Obama doesn't steamroll people, he is attempting to find answers, yes sometimes he has the wrong answers, but at least he is trying. What have the informed Republicans done to resolve the issues they helped to create. It seems "informed" citizens can be easily manipulated too.
Interesting WSJ article on gas prices and Obama
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LOL. I am sure you get your information from FOX News. President Obama doesn't steamroll people, he is attempting to find answers, yes sometimes he has the wrong answers, but at least he is trying. What have the informed Republicans done to resolve the issues they helped to create. It seems "informed" citizens can be easily manipulated too.
some very interesting statistic here, including this...
https://www.americanenergyindependence.com/fuels.aspx
and more data here: https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/index.cfm?page=oil_home#tab2
one major difference between Europe and the US is that Europe is much more densely populated so public transportation is much more efficient. Plus people walk more, and use small local shops rather than driving everywhere and doing all their shopping at big box retailers in outlying malls. Most of the US was developed more recently than Europe - our communities were designed with the idea of using personal cars to get everywhere.
https://www.americanenergyindependence.com/fuels.aspx
and more data here: https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/index.cfm?page=oil_home#tab2
one major difference between Europe and the US is that Europe is much more densely populated so public transportation is much more efficient. Plus people walk more, and use small local shops rather than driving everywhere and doing all their shopping at big box retailers in outlying malls. Most of the US was developed more recently than Europe - our communities were designed with the idea of using personal cars to get everywhere.
larryselbows
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As a geologist, I feel like maybe I could weigh in a bit on this conversation.
I went to a recruiting event at BP last week where they gave us a talk about the prospects and future direction of the company. The consensus in the oil and gas industry is that it is not a sunset industry. Prices are rising and demand is increasing. In OECD countries (first world) we are becoming much more efficient with our fuel usage, such that, even with population growth we should not be using much more fossil fuels than we are currently over the next 40 years. The growth in energy consumption is centered in China and India where lack of regulations on energy efficiency along with rampant economic growth are unabated.
This means that we are going to need a lot more energy in the future. The representatives I met at BP basically told us that oil is going to remain at production levels similar to now, however, it will become a smaller part of the energy pie. Basically, alternatives will not only become a reality, but will become a necessity because we need the added energy input to keep up.
Future prospects include:
The north Atlantic region where Arctic sea ice is receding due to climate change. In the past we have not been able to drill here because it was simply too difficult. With changing environmental conditions, this has become a new frontier in the search for hydrocarbons.
Continental shelf of Brazil (sub salt). Until recently, conventional drilling operations were constrained to rock strata that were more shallow than the deep salt sections found on the continental shelf of Brazil. We could not get coherent seismic information because the salt scattered the sound waves and too much information was lost. Furthermore, salt is too unstable to drill through. Modern advancements in technology has side-stepped these problems and now companies are finding more oil than ever thought to exist. Brazil is set to become the next oil super-power. The reservoir off of their coast could contain up to 30% of the world's supply and not only that, it's the good stuff, it's extremely low in sulfur and is isotopically light.
Oil sands, natural gas etc. As prices rise, more unconventional approaches become attainable. The cost of heating and centrifuging oil sands, as well as fracking subsurface rock formations has become less of a limiting factor.
Finally, to say that drill baby drill is the answer is a little simplistic. What I don't think people realize is the gargantuan effort required to implement a hydrocarbon drilling site. From discovery to inception it is a 10 to 15 year process. Although the US could drill unabated, we realistically just don't know what the world will be like in that time frame. It is possible that drilling could lower prices eventually, but it is totally speculative, and it would not solve our problems in the short-term.
I went to a recruiting event at BP last week where they gave us a talk about the prospects and future direction of the company. The consensus in the oil and gas industry is that it is not a sunset industry. Prices are rising and demand is increasing. In OECD countries (first world) we are becoming much more efficient with our fuel usage, such that, even with population growth we should not be using much more fossil fuels than we are currently over the next 40 years. The growth in energy consumption is centered in China and India where lack of regulations on energy efficiency along with rampant economic growth are unabated.
This means that we are going to need a lot more energy in the future. The representatives I met at BP basically told us that oil is going to remain at production levels similar to now, however, it will become a smaller part of the energy pie. Basically, alternatives will not only become a reality, but will become a necessity because we need the added energy input to keep up.
Future prospects include:
The north Atlantic region where Arctic sea ice is receding due to climate change. In the past we have not been able to drill here because it was simply too difficult. With changing environmental conditions, this has become a new frontier in the search for hydrocarbons.
Continental shelf of Brazil (sub salt). Until recently, conventional drilling operations were constrained to rock strata that were more shallow than the deep salt sections found on the continental shelf of Brazil. We could not get coherent seismic information because the salt scattered the sound waves and too much information was lost. Furthermore, salt is too unstable to drill through. Modern advancements in technology has side-stepped these problems and now companies are finding more oil than ever thought to exist. Brazil is set to become the next oil super-power. The reservoir off of their coast could contain up to 30% of the world's supply and not only that, it's the good stuff, it's extremely low in sulfur and is isotopically light.
Oil sands, natural gas etc. As prices rise, more unconventional approaches become attainable. The cost of heating and centrifuging oil sands, as well as fracking subsurface rock formations has become less of a limiting factor.
Finally, to say that drill baby drill is the answer is a little simplistic. What I don't think people realize is the gargantuan effort required to implement a hydrocarbon drilling site. From discovery to inception it is a 10 to 15 year process. Although the US could drill unabated, we realistically just don't know what the world will be like in that time frame. It is possible that drilling could lower prices eventually, but it is totally speculative, and it would not solve our problems in the short-term.
PearlWatson
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PearlWatson
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I can't get enough Obaaamaaa mockery. He says some dumb *** stuff.
Krauthammer's mockery of Obama's algae comments was pretty amusing:
https://nation.foxnews.com/charles-...4/krauthammer-mocks-obama-s-algae-energy-plan
Krauthammer's mockery of Obama's algae comments was pretty amusing:
https://nation.foxnews.com/charles-...4/krauthammer-mocks-obama-s-algae-energy-plan
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Krauthammer? The same guy who said that we cannot judge Bush's Presidency but declared Obama a disaster before he even took the white house?
The same guy that claimed that previous to the Iraqi invasion, "We cannot afford to try and reform Iraq?" The same guy who said that we had to rid Iraq of WMDs? So did we finally find them? LOL, we cannot afford to reform it. Have you seen how much that **** has cost?
Krauthammer, the guy who wanted us to declare war on Libya, Syria, and Iran?
Hmm....
I would take everything he says con un grano de sal...
PearlWatson
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Yes, Krauthammer, the dude in a wheelchair with the seriously crusty face mocking Obama cracks me up.