Is Joe Johnson off the Jazz Tradable Assets List?

[Cappy_Smurf]

I think it all depends on how well the team is playing. If the wheels are kind of falling off, then you have to trade him, assuming you can get some decent value. If the team is playing well and looking like a sure thing for the playoffs, you probably keep him and hope to bring him back again.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Uhh, he probably isnt going to be on the team past this year. If you can get future assets, you probably just do it.

Do you really think he'd net more than a 2nd rounder? If not, is some pick that is far more likely to washout than make a second contract worth more than the high-level experience and character Joe brings to a team that is both developing players and competing now?

While I understand your position, I'm inclined to disagree.

 

[NUMBERICA]

It could be. Draymond Green was a 2nd round pick.

As were a lot of very good players. But the odds of acquiring a guy that gets a second contract (my definition of an NBA player) are very, very low.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Do you really think he'd net more than a 2nd rounder? If not, is some pick that is far more likely to washout than make a second contract worth more than the high-level experience and character to a team that is both developing players and competing now?

While I understand your position, I'm inclined to disagree.

Joe Johnson did his job. He is a basketball mercenary, not someone who is going to sign w/ Utah for the rest of his career until he retires.

And yeah, I think 2nd round picks would be worth moving Johnson (depending on the health level of Favors/If we still have Favors/If we traded Favors for any other PF). Seems like every year there are steals available in the 30's of the draft (Patrick McCaw, Jordan Bell, Draymond Green Malcom Brogdon, Frank Jackson, Montrezell Harrell, Willy Hernongomez, etc)

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

As were a lot of very good players. But the odds of acquiring a guy that gets a second contract (my definition of an NBA player) are very, very low.

Yeah, maybe past 40 or so, but the last handful of drafts there have been a ton of quality in the 30's.

 

[colton]

I agree, *gasp* *Choke*, with Cy.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if he is traded by the deadline to a team that is going to be in the playoffs. I know if I was a GM i would love him coming in off my bench in the playoffs.

Psst... to let you in on a secret here, the Jazz will likely be in the playoffs.

 

[Miggs]

Joe Johnson did his job. He is a basketball mercenary, not someone who is going to sign w/ Utah for the rest of his career until he retires.

And yeah, I think 2nd round picks would be worth moving Johnson (depending on the health level of Favors/If we still have Favors/If we traded Favors for any other PF). Seems like every year there are steals available in the 30's of the draft (Patrick McCaw, Jordan Bell, Draymond Green Malcom Brogdon, Frank Jackson, Montrezell Harrell, Willy Hernongomez, etc)

Rofl at mentioning Patrick McCaw and two guys who have yet to play in an NBA regular season game.

 

[Coach Ellis]

Rofl at mentioning Patrick McCaw and two guys who have yet to play in an NBA regular season game.

Also, 3 of those guys McCaw (38), Bell (38) and Hernangomez (35) were picked with selections that were bought with cash. I'd just assume the Jazz target the playoffs, keep Joe Jesus and then buy a second round pick if there's a guy they really want.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Psst... to let you in on a secret here, the Jazz will likely be in the playoffs.

Yeah why are we offloading our closer who is one of the most clutch dudes in the most recent history.

Also I remember arguing with people about using our excess space last year... the space that we were under the floor to get a second round pick and an expiring guy. People scoffed and that would have just included cutting mack and paying money we'd have to anyway. Now we are totally cool trading JJ for a second... This. Is. Dumb.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Also, 3 of those guys McCaw (38), Bell (38) and Hernangomez (35) were picked with selections that were bought with cash. I'd just assume the Jazz target the playoffs, keep Joe Jesus and then buy a second round pick if there's a guy they really want.

Exactly.

 

[akirac73]

JJ was the difference between winning or losing the first round series vs. the Clippers. He will probably make the difference between the Jazz making or missing the playoffs next year. I say you have to keep him. Making the playoffs for this young team is critical so we don't regress back into lottery hell and lose any momentum built from last season.

 

[Park Bites]

Let me clarify my comments. 2 ifs need to be mentioned

1st - if the jazz are looking at no playoffs or a 7th 8th seed the should dump JJ for what ever asset they can get.

I hate to say it but JJ is not part of the future f the jazz. I live the guy and would love to see him retire s jazz man but our current future is in a couple to a few years out.

2nd If the jazz are in serious play off contention ie the 4th to 6th spots or better sure keep him and let's see how far this team can go.

The jazz must look at the future more then the present if they want to get back into contention.

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