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Is Obama a Natural Born US Citizen?

Is Obama A Natural Born US Citizen?

  • No, I'm a crazy *** birther

    Votes: 2 8.3%

  • Yes, I'm a blind follower

    Votes: 8 33.3%

  • Maybe, but he's hiding something.

    Votes: 5 20.8%

  • Who gives a rat's ***

    Votes: 5 20.8%

  • Whatever Kicky says

    Votes: 4 16.7%
  • Total voters
    24
  • Poll closed .
Marcus said:
Hawaii's senator is throwing his hat into the ring.

https://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=291041
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I think we all know better and this dolt is just reading polls that say 45% of Republicans think Obama is not an American Citizen; but I think he could also use a lesson in Conspiracy Theories 101.

These things don't just go away by addressing them or providing more documentation. All it does is create some sort of mutated theory; which we've already seen on this very topic.

I voted for Obama and while, for the most part, he's been a disappointment; I will say he's handled this issue perfectly except maybe for the fact that he hasn't explicitly told the birthers to go **** themselves yet.
 
candrew said:
...I voted for Obama and while, for the most part, he's been a disappointment; I will say he's handled this issue perfectly except maybe for the fact that he hasn't explicitly told the birthers to go **** themselves yet.
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lord only knows what sort of mutant that might produce...


personally I wish the birthers would just get back in their swift boat and take a ride out to sea...
 
Serious question, aren't you folks at all worried about the radical right giving birth to an isolationist, anti-immigrant, Presidential candidate who can score a ton of votes by declaring himself/herself "different than all the other DC fossils?" A person that will "stand up to foreign powers who want to take our hard earned money." A person that will bring spending "under control." Someone who isn't black, doesn't hangout with evil pastors and terrorists, and won't "bow" to any foreign leaders? Someone who will start drilling in the gulf and Alaska so we won't have to be ransomed by "terrorists in the middle east?" They'll talk about school vouchers, privatizing ss, DADT, flat taxes, and unions.

Someone like... I dunno... Like a Chris Christie? Someone who says "all the right things" to play on today's emotions and fears?

While the current big name repub Presidential candidates are jokes, Palin, Romney, Huckabee, etc. I'm not so sure that due to Obama's "compromises" instead of sticking to his guns, won't cost him in 2012. A Tea Bagger type, who plays on American Exceptionalism easily could step in and score huge points....

Thoughts?
 
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moevillini said:
personally I wish the birthers would just get back in their swift boat and take a ride out to sea...
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He got elected a couple of times by getting the sealed divorce records of his opponents opened. This is just karma.
 
The Thriller said:
Serious question, aren't you folks at all worried about the radical right giving birth to an isolationist, anti-illegal immigrant, Presidential candidate who can score a ton of votes by declaring himself/herself "different than all the other DC fossils?" A person that will "stand up to foreign powers who want to take our hard earned money." A person that will bring spending "under control." Someone who doesn't hangout with evil pastors and terrorists, and won't "bow" to any foreign leaders? Someone who will start drilling in the gulf and Alaska so we won't have to be ransomed by "terrorists in the middle east?"

Someone like... I dunno... Like a Chris Christie? Someone who says "all the right things" to play on today's emotions and fears?

While the current big name repub Presidential candidates are jokes, Palin, Romney, Huckabee, etc. I'm not so sure that due to Obama's "compromises" instead of sticking to his guns, won't cost him in 2012. A Tea Bagger type, who plays on American Exceptionalism easily could step in and score huge points....

Thoughts?
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I would welcome Christie as the GOP candidate with open arms.

I fixed your immigration comment. It's OK though, most people on the left seem to have a hard time discerning the difference between immigration vs illegal immigration.

Your comment on race is just retarded. I deleted it. Beyond that I have a hard time understanding what is wrong with any of the other "qualifications" that you listed.
 
Gameface said:
Well a form of ID that only said "Male" would not identify me as reliably as one that said "Male/Caucasian, Brown Hair, Brown Eyes" now would it?
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Maybe, but a birth certificate doesn't mention that stuff. At least mine didn't. What's interesting (ok, it's probably not interesting at all) is that I have a California birth certificate because my step-dad adopted me when I was 13. Before I had a US Citizen board abroad certificate, which is somewhere at my parent's house, so it could be my court ordered delayed birth certificate looks different than the standard California one, but I don't think so.

I saw the long form certificate from Hawaii around his time, and I'm not sure what more info it really has over the short form. They both show the date of birth, sex of the child, city of birth, the mother's maiden name, the father's name, and both the mother's and father's race.

The only thing the long form shows is the doctor's name and the hospital's name and and the address of the parents. I fail to see how any of that is relevant to establishing his citizenship, unless it's required to be born in a hospital and delivered by a doctor.
 
Nate505 said:
The only thing the long form shows is the doctor's name and the hospital's name and and the address of the parents. I fail to see how any of that is relevant to establishing his citizenship, unless it's required to be born in a hospital and delivered by a doctor.
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I've read in some places that Obama doesn't want the long form to be released because it states his religion - which (according to the birthers) at the time was Muslim. However I read in other places that the long form doesn't even state the infant's religion; but I'm also inclined to say so the **** what if he was?

For the most part it's just big ********. If he releases the long form the "birthers" will want something else and then claim he's hiding something because he didn't volunteer it.
 
Marcus said:
I would welcome Christie as the GOP candidate with open arms.

I fixed your immigration comment. It's OK though, most people on the left seem to have a hard time discerning the difference between immigration vs illegal immigration.

Your comment on race is just retarded. I deleted it. Beyond that I have a hard time understanding what is wrong with any of the other "qualifications" that you listed.
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This will come across like a joke, but I don't mean it that way. I strongly suggest that you read this. You'll either like it, or be shocked by it because a lot of your views are similar. seriously. It's a free PDF.

https://www.archive.org/details/meinkampf035176mbp
 
Took 8 pages for Godwin's Law to come to fruition.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Took 8 pages for Godwin's Law to come to fruition.
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laugh it off if you want to, but have you read Mein Kampf? Humor can't obscure the fact that Marcus sounds a lot like its pages.... Of course you'd need to read it to say so.

My statement isn't a Glen Beck sort of Nazi anxiety. Read it, you'll see.
 
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