Is Obama a Natural Born US Citizen?

[NAOS]

Let me say one extra bit: nearly 100% of my students over the past three years were absolutely astonished that we were going to read selections from Mein Kampf. Those that would vocalize why they were astonished have, without fail, said that this chapter of history was just too exceptional to worry about it repeating itself; that it was, therefore, simply to be remembered as categorically separate and horrible. Then, they are almost always shocked at how the ideas have continuity with our times. I almost always follow this lecture with stuff that was happening before and after Hitler in Australia (settlers vs. Aboriginals).

FWIW

 

[VINYLONE]

I've read in some places that Obama doesn't want the long form to be released because it states his religion - which (according to the birthers) at the time was Muslim. However I read in other places that the long form doesn't even state the infant's religion; but I'm also inclined to say so the **** what if he was?

For the most part it's just big ********. If he releases the long form the "birthers" will want something else and then claim he's hiding something because he didn't volunteer it.

Honestly, why would a BC have the religion listed? Thats ridiculous.

 

[candrew]

Let me say one extra bit: nearly 100% of my students over the past three years were absolutely astonished that we were going to read selections from Mein Kampf. Those that would vocalize why they were astonished have, without fail, said that this chapter of history was just too exceptional to worry about it repeating itself; that it was, therefore, simply to be remembered as categorically separate and horrible. Then, they are almost always shocked at how the ideas have continuity with our times. I almost always follow this lecture with stuff that was happening before and after Hitler in Australia (settlers vs. Aboriginals).

FWIW

If you've ever read transcripts of the Rwandan radio personalities/hate mongers right before the massacre it sounds like a great deal of it was lifted directly from Mein Kampf. And I seriously doubt many if any of them ever read the book.

 

[VINYLONE]

Let me say one extra bit: nearly 100% of my students over the past three years were absolutely astonished that we were going to read selections from Mein Kampf. Those that would vocalize why they were astonished have, without fail, said that this chapter of history was just too exceptional to worry about it repeating itself; that it was, therefore, simply to be remembered as categorically separate and horrible. Then, they are almost always shocked at how the ideas have continuity with our times. I almost always follow this lecture with stuff that was happening before and after Hitler in Australia (settlers vs. Aboriginals).

FWIW

Where do you teach and what do you teach?

 

[NAOS]

Where do you teach and what do you teach?

For anonymity's sake I'll leave my institution unsaid. Every year, at this time, I teach a seminar on 20th century history from a global POV.

 

[VINYLONE]

For anonymity's sake I'll leave my institution unsaid. Every year, at this time, I teach a seminar on 20th century history from a global POV.

PM? What do you think of Zinn's People's History of the United States?

 

[NAOS]

PM? What do you think of Zinn's People's History of the United States?

I've never read that book, actually.

I don't mean to be a prick, but I'm gonna keep the school I work for anonymous. I say some boneheaded stuff on here, and I don't want that coming back into my life in some strange way. That sort of thing has happened to some people, in weird and awful ways.

 

[VINYLONE]

I've never read that book, actually.

I don't mean to be a prick, but I'm gonna keep the school I work for anonymous. I say some boneheaded stuff on here, and I don't want that coming back into my life in some strange way. That sort of thing has happened to some people, in weird and awful ways.

No worries. Completely understood.

 

[Deleted member 365]

hmmmm...

"As long as the Jew has not become the master of the other
peoples, he must, whether he likes it or not, speak their languages,"

 

[colton]

Honestly, why would a BC have the religion listed? Thats ridiculous.

I agree it's ridiculous, and I agree that U.S. birth certificates almost certainly do not list it.

However... in Germany, birth certificates almost DO certainly list religion. In Germany you are born into a particular religion (for 99% of people either Catholic or Lutheran), and you even by default pay a "church tax" of ~3% (if I recall correctly) as soon as you start working. To avoid paying church tax, you have to fill out a form to remove that association from your record. That's what LDS converts have to do, because the LDS church manages its own donations (anonymous, and in theory higher than 3%) rather than relying on the government to give it the church tax proceeds. If you do stop paying church tax to the Catholic/Lutheran churches, then you can't have a church wedding/funeral/baptism of your children.

 

[colton]

For anonymity's sake I'll leave my institution unsaid.

Putting the "A" in "NAOS". ;-)

 

[LogGrad98]

laugh it off if you want to, but have you read Mein Kampf? Humor can't obscure the fact that Marcus sounds a lot like its pages.... Of course you'd need to read it to say so.

My statement isn't a Glen Beck sort of Nazi anxiety. Read it, you'll see.

Ok so I mentioned Godwin's Law just because, well it holds true so often.

As far as your assertion that Marcus' statements sounds a lot like Mein Kampf I would have to disagree. I have read it in both English and German and would not have made the leap to parallels with Mein Kampf specifically. It would help to give us some examples from the pages of Mein Kampf compared directly to Marcus' statements so we can see what comparison's you are making.