LogGrad98
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*UGLI and Dalamon are no-where to be seen*
With women? Yes. With honz? Hell no.
I think the fact that we're all a bunch of dudes talking about this is too bad.
Thing is, men can have an orgasim pretty much every time they have partnered sex or solo sex. Women aren't in the same boat. And while there are better and lesser orgasims for men I get the very strong impression that the spectrum for female orgaism is much much larger.
So while we have guys saying it's more important to eat tropical fruit and have a loving relationship we're forgetting that so many women never have an orgasim with their partner. Many of those same women have a very difficult time having an orgasim alone, if they're even comfortable putting in the required effort. So it's easy for us to say sex is overrated, but for them what's being said is that their orgasims are not important or necessary to the success of the relationship. I disagree. It is monumentally important to make sure your female partner has satisfying sex at least once in a while.
Then there is the understated way in which mutually satisfying sex creates very strong bonds. Again, as us guys talk about this I think it's lost because I don't think it works the same for us. But, if you can take your female partner to new levels of sexual satisfaction that she has never had with anyone else it will create a very powerful bond. The key is that for most women they won't get there unless they are already in a secure relationship and they feel very comfortable with their self and their partner. So if that foundation has been set and then you carry her over the threshold, so to speak, you have definitely taken your relationship to a new level. There are no amount of trips to the San Diego Zoo that will replace that.
So banging for the sake of getting off, yeah, overrated. But putting in the selfless and compassionate thought and effort to truly satisfy your partner as part of your long term committed relationship...not underrated at all, no way it could be. It is extremely important.
I fake my orgasms.
beatiful Christy Mack
Personal attacks? A little light-hearted jabbing at the most. I disagree with what you said and that was my counter-point. You're so thin skinned.
Oh jeez relax, I was playing the same game (while taking out the victim card). Besides, we all know who is the classless lame personal attack artist is of us 2.
oh get a room you two...
then come back and tell us if it's overrated or not
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