Is Tom Brady the best football player of all time?

[Deleted member 848]

pls keep posting. Your thought-pattern is proving my point. Keep the illusion strong, brother!

i'm just telling you that you're wrong, dude. Names in this thread of true GOATs who elevated their roles as sports figures have already been listed. You coming in with this trash point was...well... a trash point.

 

[Deleted member 848]

You can be rather dense sometimes.

likewise. we all can be

 

[RandyForRubio]

The definition of a true GOAT is subjective. I think you would find the majority of sports fans don't care about Brady's political leanings.

 

[Deleted member 848]

The definition of a true GOAT is subjective. I think you would find the majority of sports fans don't care about Brady's political leanings.

what made Muhammad Ali the undisputed GOAT of boxing?

Rocky Marciano went undefeated, Mayweather might too. Ray Robinson had a crazy record too.

 

[Deleted member 848]

what made Muhammad Ali the undisputed GOAT of boxing?

Rocky Marciano went undefeated, Mayweather might too. Ray Robinson had a crazy record too.

Could well be argued that Ali was the GOAT athlete of the 21st century. MJ is the only athlete who'd be close, in that he superseded his on-court production with being a cultural phenomenon. Most general people who know MJ couldn't tell you how many championships he won. Most people who know Ali couldn't tell you how many belts he won.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Yea, not sure it's possible to choose one player as the greatest ever. I would say that Brady and Sanders probably had the worst supporting cast of those listed players.

But he has an elite TE in Bennett? Right?

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[♪alt13]

Could well be argued that Ali was the GOAT athlete of the 21st century. MJ is the only athlete who'd be close, in that he superseded his on-court production with being a cultural phenomenon. Most general people who know MJ couldn't tell you how many championships he won. Most people who know Ali couldn't tell you how many belts he won.

So what kind of important information do you think people could tell you about them? Is it the fact that most people could tell you that MJ sells Nikes that makes him the goat? Is it because he played with Bugs Bunny?

 

[Stoked]

Lmfao Dala going full Dutch.

 

[Deleted member 848]

So what kind of important information do you think people could tell you about them? Is it the fact that most people could tell you that MJ sells Nikes that makes him the goat? Is it because he played with Bugs Bunny?

They would tell you he's the best basketball player ever.

As for best QB, it's easy to have a class of top 3 to 5 best QBs of all-time-- Brady is obviously in the top 3 but arguments can be made for any one of them. It's like the top 5 MC discussion in rap music. Inherently subjective.

True GOATs stand out past their peers though. I hate Michael Jordan with every fibre of my soul, and I do think it can be argued that there is a player in NBA history that is "better", but when you factor his career, on-court productions, off-court impact, and how the league (and pop-culture) changed after him? He's the greatest. Basketball was never the same after him. Just like boxing was different before and after Ali.

To be the greatest necessitates the whole package. How do you supersede your on-court contributions? Severing social context from professional athletes is dumb, especially seeing as (generally) there's no objective way to use stats to bolster a unanimous agreement. Is the best PG the one who has the most assists? Or the one who started on the most championship teams? Is the best QB the one with the best passing stats? Or the one who won the most? How much does it matter having 5 rings than 4? Are Jordan's 6 more impressive than Kareem's scoring record?

It's all messy. Thwacks of boxers have stats that on first glance are more impressive than Ali's-- so why is he considered the unanimous GOAT?

 

[Deleted member 848]

Lmfao Dala going full Dutch.

it really speaks to you thinking that my posts here are as bad as Dutch's.

 

[Stoked]

it really speaks to you thinking that my posts here are as bad as Dutch's.

It really speaks to you that you don't.

 

[Deleted member 848]

The definition of a true GOAT is subjective. I think you would find the majority of sports fans don't care about Brady's political leanings.

it's a societal letdown every time that soft sack of **** dodges every easily-answerable question, and avoids using his platform to instill positive change. Arguing that it's a "distraction" flies in the face of every other successful athlete, coach, and team that *miraculously* does both.