Israel Commences Ground Invasion into Gaza.

[Stoked]

Does this include the 8.5 million dollars the US gives Israel on the daily? You know it is illegal for a United States Citizen to boycott Israel products. A citizen can have a fine up 50,000 dollars and prison for up to 10 years for boycotting Israel.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boycotts_of_Israel#Penalties

God I hoped Ron Paul was elected president. He would have stopped aid to Israel. That alone is reason enough to elect him.

We should suspend aid to everyone. Then review each individual aid reason/amount/receipient and determine what we still want to spend on and what we don't. Not surprised to see you take this stance though.

 

[One Brow]

They lost at least 3 major wars to Israel. They still want to destroy Israel and kill all the Jews they can. How can you still ask for anything from Israel at this point?

When, in modern or ancient history, has a thoroughly defeated side been able to dictate peace terms to the victors?

Giving people the basics of human dignity is something you do because they are people, regardless of how they feel about you. Being treated like full citizens should not need to be dictated in peace terms, it should be an automatic assumption.

 

[One Brow]

Israel is willing to give them their own country and some form of self-rule.

I marvel at the mental agility required to contradict yourself in a single sentence like that. If the Palestinians to not have true self-rule, it is not their own country. Your ethical core seems to be "might makes right", I fundamentally disagree.

 

[One Brow]

Does this include the 8.5 million dollars the US gives Israel on the daily? You know it is illegal for a United States Citizen to boycott Israel products. A citizen can have a fine up 50,000 dollars and prison for up to 10 years for boycotting Israel.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boycotts_of_Israel#Penalties

God I hoped Ron Paul was elected president. He would have stopped aid to Israel. That alone is reason enough to elect him.

From your own article:

In July 2010, the Olympia food co-op in the State of Washington in the United States decided to stop selling products from Israel in its two grocery stores. A board member of the co-op said concerning the boycott that "any product that is made (...) to improve the conditions of the Palestinians will be exempted."

Any word on prosecutions of this co-op?

Also, what is actually illegal?

The scope of the EAR, as defined by Section 8 of the EAA, is limited to actions taken with intent to comply with, further, or support an unsanctioned foreign boycott.

Boycotting for internal reasons is not prohibited, and such a prohibition would be unconstitutional.

 

[Jamezz]

i just think if the arab nation is united israel cant do a thing.

the difference is world war 2/ the holocaust united the jews as 1.
i got some old family members who whore not allowed to marry each other because one was Ashkenazim and 1 was sephardic, they did anyway. they where both kicked out the respective synagoge. years later they wher eboth welcomed back though.


the arabs as a whole have nothing to unite them that strongly. all of em have different vision about islam. and that keeps them apart.
dont get me wrong jews still have different vision on judiasm, but that does not divide them anymore

What about the orthodox jews who are opposed to the Zionist state? The US is not supporting the jewish people but the Zionist state, which has been the biggest travesty in this country's history, in part due to the fact that Zionism has infiltrated our government, as it has been infiltrating many other governments since at least WWI. There's a difference between being antisemitic (which is straight up racist) and being anti-zionist.

 

[MVP]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-evIyrrjTTY

 

[DutchJazzer]

What about the orthodox jews who are opposed to the Zionist state? The US is not supporting the jewish people but the Zionist state, which has been the biggest travesty in this country's history, in part due to the fact that Zionism has infiltrated our government, as it has been infiltrating many other governments since at least WWI. There's a difference between being antisemitic (which is straight up racist) and being anti-zionist.

sure there are some small outliers.
some small groups. but all in all they stand together

 

[Jamezz]

sure there are some small outliers.
some small groups. but all in all they stand together

Yeah, I guess they do all stand together...

 

[DutchJazzer]

Yeah, I guess they do all stand together...

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so what?

the jewish people still stands united. ofcourse there will be a few outliers.
but look at the big picutre.
those jews only number in the 5000.


if 99.99% stands united. the 0.01 can do as they please.
but my point still stands as compared to the arabs. they are far from united.
atleast jews are close. if i may not say they are united because of a select few

 

[The Blue Elephant]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-evIyrrjTTY

Hmm interesting this video was created by a Jewish Woman. Didn't expect that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nina_Paley

 

[Hantlers]

I don't like it when JimLes and OB argue with each other, because then I don't know which one of them to pick to annoy. So much easier when they get along.

 

[JimLes]

I marvel at the mental agility required to contradict yourself in a single sentence like that. If the Palestinians to not have true self-rule, it is not their own country.

What country has true self-rule these days? North Korea, maybe? We live in an age where sovereignty is given up in order to achieve things like economic cooperation, peace, etc.