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Israel Commences Ground Invasion into Gaza.

DutchJazzer said:
really?
1992-1995 : Bosnian Genocide
1994: Rwanda Genocide.
2011-present :Syrian civil war
not forgetting burma.


so yeah stop using propaganda.
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According to Ramsey Clark former US attorney genera, the Palestinian people (along with Iraqi) are the most terrorized people on earth and have been for many years.

The Israeli government is one the biggest terrorist organizations of our lifetime. Worse morals then even Taliban and Al-Qaeda but with more money.
 
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Terrorist groups and dictatorships rarely are the "majority." They're usually the minority. However, they rely on the majority to be passive and/or distracted by other issues to not openly oppose them.

Ex: Hitler laid out practically everything he did during his rule in Meij Kampf. However, people were either too busy trying to find jobs, find food, find friends, relive the past glorious years of Germany, etc to read and notice what he was doing. Some, were sympathetic too. Anti-semitism, paranoia towards socialists, feminists, and immigrants, reigned. Hitler and his minority party relied on the majority to remain passive as he progressed in his ways...

Hamas isn't supported by the majority in Palestine. The majority is passive enough because they're too poor to be concerned much with politics or they're sympathetic enough to Hamas to not openly protest their extreme ways.

Honestly, a lot of this can be blamed on Israel. Israel, just like us, can have d bag extremist leaders. They've entered a phase of Bush-like arrogance and expansion. Building luxurious condos sometimes literally across the street from starving Palestinians probably isn't the best way to build bridges between the two nations. And it only gives Hamas a breeding ground for new recruits. Israel striking back and killing a few Hamas but torching a school or hospital doesn't help either.

If there is to be peace I think ultimately, Israel will need to compromise and work to build a bridge first. Perhaps even foreign aid to build their infrastructure and education. Keep people working and reading to eliminate the despair. Take away the despair and you take away Hamas' recruiting pool.
 
Israel has one of the largest propaganda campaigns of all time rivaling Hitler and Kim Jong Il.

Here is an example of the propaganda they do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIYhE-hei2Y

The fact that some people think Israel isn't a moral monster is a testament to their effectiveness
 
The Blue Elephant said:
Israel has one of the largest propaganda campaigns of all time rivaling Hitler and Kim Jong Il.

Here is an example of the propaganda they do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIYhE-hei2Y

The fact that some people think Israel isn't a moral monster is a testament to their effectiveness
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omg you are right, you convinced me
 
DutchJazzer said:
funny thing is nobody comes up with a solution.

everybody is playing the blame game.


so anybody a solution?????
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The Thriller said:
If there is to be peace I think ultimately, Israel will need to compromise and work to build a bridge first. Perhaps even foreign aid to build their infrastructure and education. Keep people working and reading to eliminate the despair. Take away the despair and you take away Hamas' recruiting pool.
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The Blue Elephant said:
According to Ramsey Clark former US attorney genera, the Palestinian people (along with Iraqi) are the most terrorized people on earth and have been for many years.

The Israeli government is one the biggest terrorist organizations of our lifetime. Worse morals then even Taliban and Al-Qaeda but with more money.
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I tend not to respond like this, but your comment there is far more ignorant and dangerous than a lot of the rubbish circulating around.

First, if you think Israel is richer than Taliban and likes, you are wrong. Oil and drug money are beyond what Israel is capable of.

Second, to claim that extremist, fundamentalist Muslim regimes hold a higher moral ground on Israel is the same as claiming Hitler was more moral the Churchill. You are leading and misleading when claiming that regimes which support death more the life are more moral. When you say that, you support people being hanged, shot, raped, mutilated and enslaved instead of people being judged by law. I dare you to walk into Gaza and say what is on your mind, let alone sound criticism, without fearing for your life. And than I welcome you to do the same in Israel, and realize that it is fine to do so within the law's limit.

I wish you well and wish you will never meet face to face with the people whom you think to be morally better than Israel.
 
eacioban said:
I tend not to respond like this, but your comment there is far more ignorant and dangerous than a lot of the rubbish circulating around.

To claim that extremist, fundamentalist Muslim regimes hold a higher moral ground on Israel is the same as claiming Hitler was more moral the Churchill. You are leading and misleading when claiming that regimes which support death more the life are more moral. When you say that, you support people being hanged, shot, raped, mutilated and enslaved instead of people being judged by law. I dare you to walk into Gaza and say what is on your mind, let alone sound criticism, without fearing for your life. And than I welcome you to do the same in Israel, and realize that it is fine to do so within the law's limit.

I wish you well and wish you will never meet face to face with the people whom you think to be morally better than Israel.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QiV9xn0RbI

They did this to a fellow Jew. Me being a man with a red beard and a BBC they would treat me even worse.
 
The did that to fellow Muslims and Palestinians:
https://www.wnd.com/2014/07/palestinians-accuse-hamas-of-executing-its-own-people/

[video=youtube_share;AQtZ9DY3MnU]https://youtu.be/AQtZ9DY3MnU

I guess this is what you define being moral, right?
I think the Israeli officers were stupid to react the way they did on the video you posted. They will be under investigation for that by internal affairs for sure, especially when it is documented.
Hamas on the other hand, use this video to scare people from criticizing them. I think that young american jewish boy will not try to go to Gaza and do the same over there - no if he feel any emotions toward keeping his head attached to the rest of his body.

Again - ignorant, dangerous and even down right stupid to think that Israel is morally lower than Hamas. But, it is your opinion and all I can do is to wish you well and hope you will never get physically proven wrong. Once you see it with your own eyes, you will never be fooled again. Do read Mosab Hassan Yousef's book.
 
The Blue Elephant said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq8ny0VlP1U
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Posting that while not fearing for your family or your life proves my point. The ability to sound criticism, an important and welcomed ability, is not approved by Hamas.

I'll challenge you - go ahead and contact a real life Hamas member, not an ignorant internet dweller, and discuss that stupid, oversimplified and erroneous video. Do report back.
 
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