israel flotilla situation?

[BabyPeterzz]

But when Europe's equivalent of the US progressives "Fairness Doctrine" drowns their respective countries in EU propaganda, what do you expect? Scores of these people are almost as programed as North Koreans.

What I was wondering is why you think Europe wants and is capable of being the world super power. What is telling you that? To me, they look absolutely lost right now. Nobody knows what to do so they are just scrambling and throwing money at everything hoping to keep economies propped up for as long as they can. It's not working and It's not hard to see where this is going - major war.

You're worried about the EU and war with Europe.......seriously?

Take a look at China, that's the country most likely to take over as the world hegemon.

Funny you mention North Korea. Many are comparing our relationship with Israel to China's relationship with North Korea.

 

[Duck Rodgers]

You're worried about the EU and war with Europe.......seriously?

No. I'm saying they don't have clue what they are doing economically so they will be using war as the next economic stimulant because they are out of options. It's not going to be war with the EU. The usual suspects that have been in the news the past couple of weeks are going to get it. Where Russia and China would fall in that war is the big question. I'm talking world war here. I hope I'm not a potential draft pick, that's all I'm saying.

 

[Slappfisk]

Your analogy is a bit off. How about a cop pulls you over and searches your car illegally. You need to get home and administer medication to your dying son, and you don't have a minute to spare, he will die in minutes. This cop doesn't care, he's holding you and searching you whether you like it or not.

What would you do?

You have missed the point. It isn't a question of what is morally or ethically correct.

 

[Qman]

Wow, you're doing a great job arguing your point and changing my mind on Israeli aggression. I'm in no way supporting Palestinian attacks on Israel, no way.

You're saying that Israel is somehow going to be overthrown by the Palestinians? Laughable. Rebels with rocks, knives, and a missle or two is in no way threatening Israel. If you were hungry and your family was starving and tanks and soldiers were keeping you from eating, what would you do?

The argument goes both ways, it's not so black and white.

If there was no blockage the Palestinians would have rifles, missile launchers and tanks.

 

[Scorpjazz]

Funny you mention North Korea. Many are comparing our relationship with Israel to China's relationship with North Korea.

Who, exactly? China?

 

[BabyPeterzz]

You have missed the point. It isn't a question of what is morally or ethically correct.

So you're saying decisions should be made without morals and ethics?

 

[BabyPeterzz]

If there was no blockage the Palestinians would have rifles, missile launchers and tanks.

Very true. But it's innocent people that are being affected most by the blockade. Yes, it's keeping Hamas unarmed for the most part, but it's the people who are suffering. The people of Palestine are being killed and starved by U.S./Israeli policy in Gaza. The U.S. and Israel are nuclear superpowers, while Palestine is on the periphery. How can the systematic starving of a country be justified here?

 

[BabyPeterzz]

Who, exactly? China?

I have no idea what you are asking me.

 

[Slappfisk]

So you're saying decisions should be made without morals and ethics?

I am not sure where you are getting that.

 

[Slappfisk]

Reuters has a pretty decent write up on why the blockade is legal.

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE65133D20100602

 

[BabyPeterzz]

Reuters has a pretty decent write up on why the blockade is legal.

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE65133D20100602

I don't think anyone is arguing whether or not it was legal. I have no idea whether it was legal, and I don't care either way. The question is should they. Cutting off Hamas at the expense of innocent lives is not justified IMO.

 

[Scat]

Very true. But it's innocent people that are being affected most by the blockade. Yes, it's keeping Hamas unarmed for the most part, but it's the people who are suffering. The people of Palestine are being killed and starved by U.S./Israeli policy in Gaza. The U.S. and Israel are nuclear superpowers, while Palestine is on the periphery. How can the systematic starving of a country be justified here?

The people of Palestine are being starved by their leadership and groups like Hamas and the PLO. Don't kid yourselves. The organizations are in it for themselves. They could care less about their fellow citizens. There is a reason that Arafat died with several million in his personal account and his wife lived in Paris. Money given to him to aid Palestine went directly to arming militants and lining his pockets.