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Sardines said:
Is it reasonable to assume the Hamas planted the car bomb?
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It could have been Hamas. It could have been Palestinian Islamic Jihad. The footage doesn't definitively prove it wasn't the IDF. It could have been some random creator in Gaza wanting to get something on camera. I don't think we should assume anything other than the footage will be seen by everyone as proof their side is the righteous side and the other side is evil.
 
Al-O-Meter said:
It could have been Hamas. It could have been Palestinian Islamic Jihad. The footage doesn't definitively prove it wasn't the IDF. It could have been some random creator in Gaza wanting to get something on camera. I don't think we should assume anything other than the footage will be seen by everyone as proof their side is the righteous side and the other side is evil.
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str8line said:
Maybe Hamas bombing their own hospital to cause outrage? Or one of their own rockets by accident. I don't think Israel are dumb enough to take out a hospital but backlash over disproportionate response was inevitable and now Israel are really in a bad place. We need to be careful not to get sucked into their mistake.
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The missile was definitely part of a barrage of missiles fired by Palestinian Islamic Jihad. That part is not in question and has been confirmed by the Pentagon. It also appears that someone was using the hospital as a place to store explosive weapons which were set off by the falling Palestinian Islamic Jihad missile. That said, there is a part of the narrative that is being ignored by both sides as they tell the story and Israel may not be entirely blameless.

Most of the footage is conveniently zoomed to crop out the top of the frame. You see the flash of the rocket motors as the missiles were launched and you see the explosion at the hospital, but nearly all of the footage doesn't show the small pop of light in the air just before the explosion at the hospital. That could be the rocket malfunctioning or it could be the rocket being intercepted by iron dome. I'm thinking Palestinian Islamic Jihad fired off these rockets, The iron dome defense system intercepted at least one of them while still over Gaza, and the remnants of the intercepted rocket fell on a hospital Hamas was using as an ammo dump.
 
Al-O-Meter said:
The missile was definitely part of a barrage of missiles fired by Palestinian Islamic Jihad. That part is not in question and has been confirmed by the Pentagon. It also appears that someone was using the hospital as a place to store explosive weapons which were set off by the falling Palestinian Islamic Jihad missile. That said, there is a part of the narrative that is being ignored by both sides as they tell the story and Israel may not be entirely blameless.

Most of the footage is conveniently zoomed to crop out the top of the frame. You see the flash of the rocket motors as the missiles were launched and you see the explosion at the hospital, but nearly all of the footage doesn't show the small pop of light in the air just before the explosion at the hospital. That could be the rocket malfunctioning or it could be the rocket being intercepted by iron dome. I'm thinking Palestinian Islamic Jihad fired off these rockets, The iron dome defense system intercepted at least one of them while still over Gaza, and the remnants of the intercepted rocket fell on a hospital Hamas was using as an ammo dump.
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Here is the footage that causes me to believe this was a Palestinian Islamic Jihad rocket that was intercepted by iron dome.


View: https://twitter.com/yousuf_tw/status/1714367757968384106
 
Seeing the spirited defense a white supremacist, ethnic cleansing, colonial state is getting by fellow imperialists demonstrates that the only relevant moral principle in this world is that might makes right.
 
Eminence said:
While I'm feeling historical, a question I've always wondered - why in 1947 did the UN partition plan give the Negev to Israel and the northern portion bordering Lebanon to Palestine?

The map would seem to make so much more sense with the two flipped. Those narrow strips of land separating the two seem destined for conflict.

The 1947 partition plan for reference:

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It was because of the malaria endemic to the relevant areas. This is a map of malaria incidence the British made in 1920.

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Then in 1920, a Jewish scientist named Dr. Israel Klingler spearheaded an effort to drain swamps and destroy mosquito breeding sites in the area as Jews began buying up all the land that had previously been uninhabited and uninhabitable due to everyone who tried dying from malaria.

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The 1949 Partition Plan reflected the ethnic concentrations as they were in 1949 after nearly 30 years of Jews buying swamps and draining them.

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#freepalestine

Hamas is a terrorist clique ofc BUT Israel being a "western civilisation" needs to be accounted for their terrorism. And now it seems it is getting its big bro terrorists in USA to join them. Sickening. Western "civilisations" has to do better!
 
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