In 6.3% of the possessions he's involved in, he's the pick and roll ball-handler...
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In 6.3% of the possessions he's involved in, he's the pick and roll ball-handler...
Middleton shoots 55% in the paint (non-restricted area) and gets 60% of those buckets unassisted. That shows he can get into the paint and has ways to score even if he can't all the way to the rim at times. He isn't just a catch and shoot player at all. You are really underselling his talents.
MDAV28
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I didn't take it that way. Just saying he shoots the 3 ball a lot more than Burks so I don't really understand the comparison. Look at it this way, Middleton has taken 140 more 3s than Burks in 900 less minutes.
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Is that a decrease from last year? What %age of them is he scoring on/assisting on?
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Redick has an all-around offensive game. He can shoot off the dribble and he is very good at pulling up. You need to watch some more basketball games.
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You're kidding yourself if you claim that Redick isn't an off-the-ball player.
(We could be having conflicting definitions of what this means-- cannot think of any other reason as to why you're missing this).
Cyrone. Name 5 off-the-ball NBA players, and let's compare their stats to Khris.
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Middleton also has a very reliable mid-range turnaround jump shot.
jjscap
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I'd be happy with Middleton. This guy will be real good in this league, like Jimmy Butler good. Not sure if the Utah Jazz desperately need another draft pick given we already have an elite frontcourt with Hayward, Favors, Gobert and guards are relatively easy to find/acquire in case Burks, Hood, Exum don't live up to their potential.
Exum - Middleton - Hayward - Favors - Gobert
6'6" - 6'8" - 6'8" - 6'10" - 7'2"
Exum - Middleton - Hayward - Favors - Gobert
6'6" - 6'8" - 6'8" - 6'10" - 7'2"
Off-the-ball players are guys who can only be effective off teh ball and have little to no ability to create a shot if they have to put the ball on the floor. A guy like Anthony Morrow to me is a classic example of an off-the-ball player.
Does Redick do a lot of his damage off-ball, of course, but he is extremely capable of putting the ball on the floor and has moves to get himself open if need be and get a good shot off.
Middleton has moves, you are blind if you don't realize that. How many purely off-ball players can post up?
MDAV28
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It's painfully obvious somebody hasn't watched much of Middleton this season... It's fine, but I don't know why they seem to be an expert on their value after admitting they have seen like 3 games he has played all season.
I've seen maybe 20 games Middleton has played this year and by no means am I an expert either. I think I catch most of his good nights. One meh game I remember was actually the Jazz-Bucks game. He seems to have an impact on both ends of the floor when I'm watching the Bucks.
I've seen maybe 20 games Middleton has played this year and by no means am I an expert either. I think I catch most of his good nights. One meh game I remember was actually the Jazz-Bucks game. He seems to have an impact on both ends of the floor when I'm watching the Bucks.
I don't have his numbers from last year on that one. BTW, that's very few possessions in case you wonder(35 possessions for 50 games this year), so you are not wrong that he doesn't run many of their pick and rolls, but they have ball-handlers to do that. It's just not his role. On your question - he's taken a shot in 24 of those 35 possessions(so about 68%).