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[l Abach l]

Kind of funny what the RealGMers are saying about Hayward/Jazz not agreeing on extension. They kind of put the Jazzfanz homerism of Hayward into perspective. Best quote was, "on what planet does a 12ppg player think he's worth 10M/year?" https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1280921 Props to Lattimer for starting that thread on Realgm.

 

[Siro]

Kind of funny what the RealGMers are saying about Hayward/Jazz not agreeing on extension. They kind of put the Jazzfanz homerism of Hayward into perspective. Best quote was, "on what planet does a 12ppg player think he's worth 10M/year?" https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1280921 Props to Lattimer for starting that thread on Realgm.

And this is so different than what people have been saying here because...

Maybe read a post or two before you bless us with your wisdom.

 

[l Abach l]

And this is so different than what people have been saying here because...

Maybe read a post or two before you bless us with your wisdom.

My entire post was quoting other people. How was I blessing anyone with my wisdom? Nice pokemon pic bro.

 

[Siro]

My entire post was quoting other people. How was I blessing anyone with my wisdom? Nice pokemon pic bro.

They kind of put the Jazzfanz homerism of Hayward into perspective.

That's the stupid statement I was referring to, obviously. And the picture is not from Pokemon. It's from a cartoon named Invader Zim.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

*The biggest negative is that a motivated Hayward in a contract year could hurt the tank late in the season.

Totally disagree with this. If he isn't going to play every game to win we don't want him either way. I never saw a difference when Stockton was playing for a contract. That's the kind of guy I want on this team and the culture I hope the Jazz can create. I'm not butt hurt like some people are trying to imply. I just have more information than I used to have about who Hayward is, and I don't like it.

 

[Litany]

Kind of funny what the RealGMers are saying about Hayward/Jazz not agreeing on extension. They kind of put the Jazzfanz homerism of Hayward into perspective. Best quote was, "on what planet does a 12ppg player think he's worth 10M/year?" https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1280921 Props to Lattimer for starting that thread on Realgm.

I wanted to get the thoughts of those not emotionally invested in this team. It seems that nobody thinks he is worth what he thinks he's worth.

 

[nightmare3983]

I have burks and favors.... kanter is next.

(And I have boozer, millsap, and until recently a kris humphries jersey lol)

You got rid of the Humphries jersey? You should've kept it for entertainment value. Like the guy wearing a Donyell Marshall jersey at ESA on Tuesday during the ticket giveaway. That gave my brother and I good laugh while we were waiting in line.

 

[nightmare3983]

Someone will need to listen and give a recap:

David Locke ‏@Lockedonsports 16m

Dennis Lindsey and Gordon Hayward will both address the media today at shoot around tune to @1280sports. Only station with the Jazz

 

[fishonjazz]

You got rid of the Humphries jersey? You should've kept it for entertainment value. Like the guy wearing a Donyell Marshall jersey at ESA on Tuesday during the ticket giveaway. That gave my brother and I good laugh while we were waiting in line.

Gave it to a friend as a gag gift/b-day present.
He wore it to the club that very night lol

 

[franklin]

player efficiency rating

Let's say Hayward continues growing from his current 16.8 PER to the 18-19 range and caps at a reasonable 45-60 best player range. Here's equivalent player

43 Manu Ginobili 19.0 $7,500,000 $7,500,000 $7,000,000
44 Tyson Chandler 18.9 $14,100,538 $14,100,538 $14,598,888
45 Robin Lopez 18.9 $5,904,261 $5,904,261 $6,124,728
46 Jose Calderon 18.8 $6,791,570 $6,791,570 $7,097,191 $7,402,812 $7,708,427
47 Kemba Walker 18.8 *ROOKIE SCALE - EXEMPTED FROM DISCUSSION*
48 Larry Sanders 18.7 $11,000,000 $11,000,000 $11,000,000 $11,000,000 (Extended years starts 2014-2015)
49 Tiago Splitter 18.7 $10,000,000 $10,000,000 $9,250,000 $8,500,000 $8,250,000
50 Samuel Dalembert 18.6 $3,700,748 $3,700,748 $3,867,282
51 Kenneth Faried 18.5 *ROOKIE SCALE - EXEMPTED FROM DISCUSSION*
52 Jordan Hill 18.5 $3,563,600 $3,563,600
53 Chris Johnson Who?
54 Mike Conley 18.3 $8,200,001 $8,200,001 $8,894,216 $9,588,426
55 Ersan Ilyasova 18.3 $7,900,000 $7,900,000 $7,900,000 $7,900,000 $8,400,000
56 John Henson 18.2 *ROOKIE SCALE - EXEMPTED FROM DISCUSSION*
57 Thaddeus Young 18.2 $8,850,000 $8,850,000 $9,410,870 $9,971,739
58 Ryan Anderson 18.1 $8,308,500 $8,308,500 $8,491,500 $8,500,000
59 Tyreke Evans 18.1 $10,300,000 $10,300,000 $10,763,500 $11,227,000 $11,690,500
60 Joakim Noah 18.1 $11,100,000 $11,100,000 $12,200,000 $13,400,000
61 Rajon Rondo 18.1 $11,954,545 $11,954,545 $12,909,091
62 Shawn Marion 18.0 $9,316,796 $9,316,796


Taking out the bold because they don't seem good comparisons to Hayward by PER, the average contract is $9,009,667.*


*Using the first year of Sander's extension instead of the last year of his rookie scale.



**Currently working on 19.1-21.0 PER pay range.

 

[GVC]

And Millsap signed for less money than what the Jazz offered him a year earlier.

Not per year.

 

[The Midnight]

Someone will need to listen and give a recap:

David Locke ‏@Lockedonsports 16m

Dennis Lindsey and Gordon Hayward will both address the media today at shoot around tune to @1280sports. Only station with the Jazz

Just missed it too, but here are some twitter feeds:

Jody Genessy ‏@DJJazzyJody 14m
Lindsey reminded reporters that Manu Ginobili and Tony Parker didn't sign extensions at one point with Spurs and that eventually worked out.

David Locke ‏@Lockedonsports 11m
Clear Jazz organization view of Gordon Hayward is unchanged. Lindsey "imagine him retiring as a Jazz player"

Jody Genessy ‏@DJJazzyJody 11m
Lindsey: "We're honored to have Gordon part of the organization."

David Locke ‏@Lockedonsports 10m
Numerous references from Lindsey about Gordon 's character, competitiveness and strong family upbringing. Organization very high on Hayward

Jody Genessy ‏@DJJazzyJody 3m
Hayward: "I love being in Utah. I wish it could have happened." He wants it to happen next summer.

Boy, it must be kinda like playing poker and keeping a straight face when your heart is saying something else completely ... LOL...