Jackpotting Around Podcast: Episode 27 - Trader Danny Bets on Chaos
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JimLes
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It's not even about competing. With about a sixth or a fifth of a league tanking any given year, and most of the rest putting in half-hearted effort during the regular season, it's not that hard to put together a team to win 30-35 games. We've seen that right here in SLC the last couple of seasons. The Suns don't need Jimmy or Devin or Kevin to win 30 games. They can do that if anybody.
Let's face it people, this recent trend of teams trading stars for zillion FRPs is fool's gold. We will never see a team owing their FRP go 10-72. Phoenix will go all out in 2031, if for no other reason but to spite us.
Let's face it people, this recent trend of teams trading stars for zillion FRPs is fool's gold. We will never see a team owing their FRP go 10-72. Phoenix will go all out in 2031, if for no other reason but to spite us.
Except that the Celtics’ foundation is built on the Nets picks they got in the KG/Pierce trade, but go off, king.
And the Thunder are based off the king's ransoms they got for Russ/CP3/George.
And that having these hoards of picks are what enables both teams to be juggernauts without putting three mortgages on their proverbial house.
Also, if a genuinely awful team who genuinely tries to win successfully hovers on the margins of the play-in or out altogether (the aforementioned 35 win team), the newer more-flattened odds in the lottery makes those picks a lot more valuable than in the previous less-flattened ones.
JimLes
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The NBA has changed a little bit in the past decade.
Yeah, it’s made it so those picks are juicier. Also, you were the one who was making the argument that every year 20% if the league is tanking so it’s impossible for teams trying to win to cough up bad picks.
JimLes
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Yeah, the league looks different than 10 years ago. Is this a controversial thing now? Teams aren't taking the regular season seriously and players aren't playing 82 games nor going all out for meaningless games.
Again, why in the world do you think Phoenix would do as a favour and act like this season's Jazz in 2031? Why would they go out of their way to make sure that pick is top 3?
the Sixers are trying like hell to win and will either cough up, like, the 7th pick this year to the Thunder or will have a ~25% chance of jumping top-4 (roughly the same odds as the worst team in the league jumping to #1, previously).
The Pelicans spent most of the year trying to win with a loaded roster and it didn’t stop them from having a bottom-5 record for much of the season.
The Spurs got the 8th pick from the Raptors which I’m sure you will cite as reinforcing your point. My point would be I would rather have the #8 pick in a draft than a pick in the 20’s.
Speaking of last year, TWO late-lottery (teams trying to win games) jumped top-4.
Phoenix will own none of their own picks unencumbered and are doing everything they can to marry themselves to two franchise killers in their mid-30’s. We don’t know the future, but that is a recipe to ruin down the road. Hell, they’re barely a play-in team right now.
You are free to keep spinning tires about your theory.
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Flattened odds makes owning another team's unprotected pick better. I'm not sure how this has to be explained.
JimLes
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Wow, two examples of your theory working the last 5 years versus dozens where it didn't. Well, I'm convinced.
We just have to cross our fingers and hope for an unlikely dumpster fire a la Pelicans or Sixers(who will make the playoffs this year, so I'm not sure what kind of an example this is) and maybe, maybe we'll get a coveted #8 pick so we can select another Cody or Taylor with it.