Game Thread Jan 01, 2022 07:00PM MT: Jazz vs. Warriors

[Eminence]

If we don’t have a roster fix then what do you think will happen if/when we face them in the playoffs?

I mean, if the Warriors are reasonably healthy we likely lose. Steph/Dray is an all-timer of a combo.

I like our squad, but we're not at that level.

But folks are really going all in on a game where we shot 32% from 3 and the Warriors shot 53%.

 

[wackypawn]

What a ****** night. Utah’s defense gives up nearly 700 yards and the Jazz take a massive dump against the warriors.

Also, jingles was terrible. One of my all time favorites. But he’s killing this team. We need some juice at the 3-4. It looks so slow and stagnant.

Yeah, its always someone else's fault but not the supposed star and leader of our team.

4/19 and pretty lazy and attrocious on D apart from a few posessions in the 4th when it was too late.

Bad games happen to everyone but lets call the spade a spade, shall we?

Being a fanboy apologist is not helping anyone...

 

[idiot]

My belief is that Quin is the moneyball guy, hence no adjustments from the Clippers regular season game through the sounding horn on game 6. Just a belief of keeping rolling the dice because the numbers are with you. The reference to anomalies is the common retort for any close game lost, with an underlying implication that the next equation will be absent such anomalous variables. The stats arise from the floor and the floor doesn’t succumb to the stats. The directionality of this relationship is what befuddles moneyball practitioners on applying long-term strategy to finite situation. The problem, then, is what the moneyball approach allows us to take away from this game: absolutely nothing, except to moneyball harder.

OK, thanks for the explanation. Misunderstood your reference.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Yeah, its always someone else's fault but not the supposed star and leader of our team.

4/19 and pretty lazy and attrocious on D apart from a few posessions in the 4th when it was too late.

Bad games happen to everyone but lets call the spade a spade, shall we?

Being a fanboy apologist is not helping anyone...

Mitchell sucked tonight too. I mean I thought I stated that when I said “the Jazz” but I guess I need to be specific about each and every player that plays poorly?

Who’s a fanboy apologist? What evidence do you have that im a fanboy apologist for Mitchell? I think you jumped to conclusions.

 

[Deleted member 365]

I mean, if the Warriors are reasonably healthy we likely lose. Steph/Dray is an all-timer of a combo.

I like our squad, but we're not at that level.

But folks are really going all in on a game where we shot 32% from 3 and the Warriors shot 53%.

Did their defense have anything to do with our poor shooting?

We seem to struggle with long and athletic defenses.

And I’m hating our 1 on 5 design. What happened to the blender?

 

[idiot]

Warriors have had some incredible luck this season. I'll leave it for others to parse out the difference between "create-your-own luck" and "dumb luck":

• Payton shooting well all over the floor
• Wiggins playing up to his contract
• Poole developing into a major threat
• OPJ looking as healthy and efficient as he's ever been
• Bjelica somehow managing to survive as part of a suffocating, blitzing defense after stinking it up last year for the Heat (who also have the reputation for reviving careers)
• Looney (who most observers criminally underrate, IMO) managing to stay healthy, given his history

Hats off to them. They deserve their place atop the NBA.

 

[Ron Mexico]

Did their defense have anything to do with our poor shooting?

We seem to struggle with long and athletic defenses.

And I’m hating our 1 on 5 design. What happened to the blender?

Their defense bothered us at times. But we missed a ton of wide open shots. Their physical play bothered us and it often does from teams. The refs actually started calling a lot of that and GS had to back off a little and then we exploded. But when the game is close towards the end it comes back and the refs call far less at that point. It's also hard to beat Steph in close games. He can make impossible three's against good defenses and creates a ton of room for the rest of the team.

 

[idiot]

Did their defense have anything to do with our poor shooting?

We seem to struggle with long and athletic defenses.

And I’m hating our 1 on 5 design. What happened to the blender?

We were at 41% from 3 without Ingles's and Mitchell's contributions. I'd argue that Mitchell's night wasn't particularly affected by their defense. He just missed shots. But I think Ingles is much more prone to be bothered by the defense.

As much as I hate to say it, it's looking more and more like Joe's spot is the place we ought to try to find improvement. When Joe's on, we're kind of unstoppable. But I think he's the first thing that locked-in defenses are able to turn off.

 

[Brsn]

You forgot dray as well. No say we can match up with them at full strength. Just have to be lucky to avoid them in a bracket which is pathetic too smh.

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Yeah, not having and whiteside and dray are about the same. But Klay just puts them a level above us. I think we could have played a better. But I'm just not convienced that we have a title team right now.

 

[Ron Mexico]

I still think Ingles can/will turn it on and be back to himself. But even if he does I'm okay with trading him.

 

[Avery]

Guard play was awful tonight.

 

[Ron Mexico]

Yeah, not having and whiteside and dray are about the same. But Klay just puts them a level above us. I think we could have played a better. But I'm just not convienced that we have a title team right now.

That's assuming he's going to be anywhere close to what he used to be. It might take him awhile to get back to anywhere close to what he was. That much time away and the injuries have a toll.