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Game Thread Jan 09, 2025 07:00PM MT: Miami Heat @ Utah Jazz

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One might be worried how Lauri can't do anything on ball and finish inside in at least half of the games this season. It's really bad when 7ft guy has regularly worse fg% from inside than outside. It's something I'm actually worried about for his trade value. Its painfully obvious that now when league has figured out his thin bag of moves inside, and is treated like a true first option he wouldn't be in a contending team... It's ugly. Most of the time I'm waiting for a turnover or a blocked shot nowadays, when he puts the ball on the floor and tries to create.

At least he found a bit his three point shot now so it's something.
 
I'll admit to only semi watching this one (I was watching on my phone as I watched the CFP). I thought that Cody and Collier had quite a few nice moments in this one, sure mixed in with some not great moments. Cody's confidence and activity is at a different level right now.
 
The bench play from both sides in the 1st half was some of the worst basketball you'll see in the NBA outside on end-of-season tanking / garbage time. Just completely unable to score, no matter what. The Jazz would've won this one with just one more scorer, anyone, Sensa, either JC, anyone, or even Patty making his shots. Heat are awful and Bam looks a shell of himself.
 
Tanktastic said:
The bench play from both sides in the 1st half was some of the worst basketball you'll see in the NBA outside on end-of-season tanking / garbage time. Just completely unable to score, no matter what. The Jazz would've won this one with just one more scorer, anyone, Sensa, either JC, anyone, or even Patty making his shots. Heat are awful and Bam looks a shell of himself.
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Heat aren't awful and Bam is still good. Maybe Utah is just playing well?
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Heat aren't awful and Bam is still good. Maybe Utah is just playing well?
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Bam is playing his worst season since becoming a full-time starter. Points down, percentages down. And for some unknown reason he's suddenly shooting lots of threes and being really bad at them: 2,6 attempts at 28 %. (Before January is over, he'll pass his career total of 104 attempts just in half a season.)
 
Tremendous Upside said:
They're in total disarray.


Literally having a horrible season by his standards.


9th straight home loss.
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The Heat literally just spanked the Warriors in Golden State by 16. To say they are awful without Butler is just flat out wrong. Are they going to be more prone to bad performances? Of course, but they are still a team with a nice amount of talent, a top tier coach, and role players who play their role.

Bam having a bad season doesnt mean Bam is bad. He's still a very good player.

Losses/Wins arent the only way to evaluate a team's performances. I would say Utah is clearly playing a bit better as of late due to multiple factors.
 
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Tanktastic said:
Bam is playing his worst season since becoming a full-time starter. Points down, percentages down. And for some unknown reason he's suddenly shooting lots of threes and being really bad at them: 2,6 attempts at 28 %. (Before January is over, he'll pass his career total of 104 attempts just in half a season.)
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OK, so he's having an off year. He's still a great player.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
OK, so he's having an off year. He's still a great player.
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Yep. Bam is still a beast and with them no longer having championship aspirations this year I like the fact that he is working to expand his range a little bit.
 
Tanktastic said:
The bench play from both sides in the 1st half was some of the worst basketball you'll see in the NBA outside on end-of-season tanking / garbage time. Just completely unable to score, no matter what. The Jazz would've won this one with just one more scorer, anyone, Sensa, either JC, anyone, or even Patty making his shots. Heat are awful and Bam looks a shell of himself.
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Are you a Finnish person like me, someone wrote this almost word by word in Finnish forum.
 
HeatCheck said:
I know they have injuries but I really hate to see so many minutes going to Mills and Eubanks.
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You cant just play the rookies/young guys 30+ minutes. Its good to have the veterans take pressure off and also fail. Cody/Collier arent well served taking a ton of shots at this point. It would just tank their confidence.
 
Tremendous Upside said:
Funny.
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Ehh, it's a theory I believe in. If I thought any of our rookies had a higher potential for volume I would be opposed (like maybe Sensabaugh, who I do think is showing he can take on more responsibility as a scoring option and Keyonte when healthy). As the season progresses Im sure we will see an uptick on the youth usage. For now I like the development gameplan and have enjoyed the Mills/Eubanks usage.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
OK, so he's having an off year. He's still a great player.
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I said he was a shell of himself; ie. comparing his performance now to his own previous seasons. Not saying he's suddenly a bad player.

As for the Heat beating the Warriors... After a super start the Warriors are 7-15 since then. The Jazz 6-16 over the same spell. So that's not quite the achievement.
 
Tanktastic said:
I said he was a shell of himself; ie. comparing his performance now to his own previous seasons. Not saying he's suddenly a bad player.

As for the Heat beating the Warriors... After a super start the Warriors are 7-15 since then. The Jazz 6-16 over the same spell. So that's not quite the achievement.
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I guess it's just a matter of language then because I consider "shell of himself" to be a drastic fall off, like a 35 year old vet who is now a role player after being an all-star.
 
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