Game Thread Jan 21, 2022 07:00PM MT: Jazz vs. Pistons

[enchilada_style]

Somehow the Jazz are 30-16. They have some room to spiral some more so that’s nice


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[LoPo]

This is not the farm thread but yeah, we probably should've taken Herb Jones......

Considering our issues, missing on Herb Jones in the 2nd round might be one of our biggest draft mistakes we have had in the last 5 years.

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[416Klawzz]

I know we all get upset with Clarkson, but hate him or love him, he wants to be here and play here. No one else does, or will. Bring someone else in and they will want to bolt when their contract is up

 

[kabenac]

Thank goodness Clarkson played well else we could have lost this bizzle.

And Forrest defended like a beast. He serves a purpose and has room to improve.

The win is nice but we need some trades.

 

[Deleted member 365]

I know we all get upset with Clarkson, but hate him or love him, he wants to be here and play here. No one else does, or will. Bring someone else in and they will want to bolt when their contract is up

That was his 1 good game out of 5. He will next play horrible defense and shoot us out of the next several games.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Everybody wants better defenders yet they complain about Forrest getting minutes who is one of the best defenders this year holding players to 39% when he guards them. Which is better than Smart has ever been on defense.

But Butler is the best in the NBA for anyone who's played more than 10 games at a ridiculous 19%.

The issue with Forrest is he’s not a shooter at all. He has no potential to be an acceptable shooter… and he’s a high turnover player. So it’s nice he’s a good defender but having a perimeter player with a mix of non shooter and high turnover absolutely nukes our offense. It’s made worse by the fact we have non shooter bigs. He’s also not a disruptive defender…not a lot of deflections, steals, etc. So my issue is where is his development going… because he’s nowhere near being good enough as a shooter and I don’t believe he will ever be a good shooter. It’s something people assume guys can just get better at but many guys at his level never become good enough. Last night guys actually closed out to him… other nights teams are more prepared and ignore him. It’s just another low ceiling project… like Tony Bradley. It’s fine to have Forrest on the roster and we didn’t waste a pick on him… but to prioritize him over Hughes and Butler is silly. Trent will never be a guy that can play extended minutes unless you get a shooting 5. He’s a guy that will be scouted harder in the playoffs and ignored. He will be unplayable in some situations.

 

[str8line]

That's exactly what your mom whispered in my ear.

Lol

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[str8line]

Based on the Toronto game we need to get Eliza Huge minutes in a bad way.

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[homeytennis]

The issue with Forrest is he’s not a shooter at all. He has no potential to be an acceptable shooter… and he’s a high turnover player. So it’s nice he’s a good defender but having a perimeter player with a mix of non shooter and high turnover absolutely nukes our offense. It’s made worse by the fact we have non shooter bigs. He’s also not a disruptive defender…not a lot of deflections, steals, etc. So my issue is where is his development going… because he’s nowhere near being good enough as a shooter and I don’t believe he will ever be a good shooter. It’s something people assume guys can just get better at but many guys at his level never become good enough. Last night guys actually closed out to him… other nights teams are more prepared and ignore him. It’s just another low ceiling project… like Tony Bradley. It’s fine to have Forrest on the roster and we didn’t waste a pick on him… but to prioritize him over Hughes and Butler is silly. Trent will never be a guy that can play extended minutes unless you get a shooting 5. He’s a guy that will be scouted harder in the playoffs and ignored. He will be unplayable in some situations.

If you would have watched Butler last night you would not be saying that. He made NWG look like Magic Johnson.

 

[416Klawzz]

That was his 1 good game out of 5. He will next play horrible defense and shoot us out of the next several games.

I'm talking about his good games and his 6th man campaign. Yes he has had bad games but people tend to crucify him more than has been Joe or when Bojan is brokendownovich

 

[416Klawzz]

Based on the Toronto game we need to get Eliza Huge minutes in a bad way.

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Quin will never see it that way. He prefers Royce the reluctant and Trent lost in the Forrest

 

[homeytennis]

Quin is really strange. He tends to send guys packing or to the bench after they play really well. I know what my eyes saw, the guys efficiency rating but is Quin using some metrics us mere mortals couldn't possibly comprehend?