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Jaren Jackson Jr. traded to the Jazz

I wouldn't be a bit surprised if we tanked our asses off and the powers that be took the pick as a penalty. Just seems like something that could happen to our organization.
Which is why the Jazz might as well do the grimiest tank of all time to end with a bottom-4 record and not let them.

I highly doubt the NBA could or would do that. That would open up a Pandora’s box of **** for them.
 
I think we have a real clear tanking move that we can pass off as developmental... well... it would be legit developmental - just give Ace a ton of on-ball opportunities. Maybe even run the offense through him in certain situations... like... high leverage, end of game, clutchitime situations.
Just to add to it:
- let Collier/Brice run the show "to know what they actually can do at the 1"
- play Key off the ball "as we always intended to do in the first place"
- mix a lot of Flip at 5 "to make him learn how to use his body in the paint"
- play Cody at the 2 with Ace at the 3 "to work early on pair connectivity"
Got a lot of excuses to make if you just decide to use them...
 
There are some other teams doing the same thing
Does NBA take away everyone's pick
How many teams were fined for doing exactly what we did last year? I'm curious as I don't remember it happening to any others. This would indicate they have a special kind of disdain for the Jazz
 
There are some other teams doing the same thing
Does NBA take away everyone's pick
Exactly. The list of other teams’ collective offenses is the size of a continent.

The NBA would probably be opening themselves up to a massive lawsuit and definitely be creating a way larger PR issue than the one they’d be trying to solve by making an example of a team that tanked literally one time before 2023 and has seen vanishingly little benefits from the practice.
 
After being confused and not knowing how to feel at first. I am very into this trade, with the one incredibly massive caveat that we need to keep our pick this year. If that happens then going into next year will be very exciting and I can finally follow the team night to night and root for wins again.

If we lose the pick then the season is a disaster. But all of the Jazz mouthpieces are talking about keeping the pick being THE priority (First time listening to Locke in years this morning, man was he on one). So I think the team understands the importance of that.

Keep this pick, lock up Kessler, and get me to October. I'll be all in.
 
My sense of things is Adam Silver is on pretty thin ice right now. He can't be creating his own problems.
He'll be remembered as the idiot who opened the floodgates of gambling — and, hence, torched the league's status as a generationally inherited pastime. Once you start getting people addicted in the wrong way, then it becomes a problem to spend this time with kids. Gambling is short-term profiteering at the expense of generational stability.
 
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What I dont get is @Tremendous Upside whining hard about this deal, when he is the one who has been crying the most about tanking.

Make that make sense.

On a basic level, I LOVE that we took a win-now win-next-season swing. That's absolutely what I was hoping for. The tank is dead (soon). This I do celebrate.

However, you can't separate the move from the end result as the stakes are so big. To understand my stance you have to understand that I truly hate JJJ as a player. To me he was quite literally the worst possible trade target, as far as max guys go. The writing was on the wall for Jackson in Memphis, and seeing as he was basically stealing money this season, I felt some schadenfreude. He was a lazy fake star who couldn't/wouldn't rise to the occasion when his team needed him.

I knew JJJ was probably getting traded and that someone was in for serious buyer's remorse. I also thought that the Jazz were out of the danger zone, as it wouldn't have made any sense from the FO's point of view to bring in a healthy high profile player in the middle of a hardcore race for the bottom. I was wrong.

It's basically torture to watch JJJ stop the ball and do his stupid little left-handed push shots, but here we are. I guess I'm gonna have to try to get used to it. If he was a $25 million per year player, I wouldn't complain. But he's paid like a franchise guy and that takes a **** ton of things off the table.

I don't think we needed a "star" who will bring his "star" baggage with him. We already have two of the best scorers in the League and there's a limited amount of basketballs for the starting lineup as it is. I guess I think JJJ is massively overrated as a defender, and we will end up hoping he somehow scores 20+ppg instead to get some return of investment. That will bring its own set of problems.

Other than that, I'm overjoyed!
 
Which is why the Jazz might as well do the grimiest tank of all time to end with a bottom-4 record and not let them.

I highly doubt the NBA could or would do that. That would open up a Pandora’s box of **** for them.
They can't take a pick based on the current CBA. They could rig the lottery to make the Jazz fall to 9 if the Jazz don't lose enough games...
 
He'll be remembered as the idiot who opened the floodgates of gambling — and, hence, torched the league's status as a generationally inherited pass time. Once you start getting people addicted in the wrong way, then it becomes a problem to spend this time with kids. Gambling is short-term profiteering at the expense of generational stability.
Plus Kawhi/Balmer/Aspirationgate. Plus the fumbled Europe expansion. Plus the Memphis owner's Putin weapon shipments. Plus the joke of the mid-season tournament that fans and teams (see: NYK banner decision) don't take seriously. Plus the lack of confidence in draft integrity after Doncic/Flagg.

He just isn't a good leader who bumbles his way through crises instead of solving them.
 
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