Jaylen Brown

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  1. Alfalfa

    Alfalfa Well-Known Member

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    Hayward is trash, so unless those are lottery picks, I don't see how that'd get it done. I'm sure they prefer Brown over Hayward's crippled old *** for 30m per.
     

  2. Saint Cy of JFC

    Saint Cy of JFC Well-Known Member

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    Ehh, I think Hayward is eventually going to become more consistently his old self. He should be really good next year. A lot his issues right now are just shot making on fairly easy attempts, which should comeback to him.
     
  3. Alfalfa

    Alfalfa Well-Known Member

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    I doubt it.
     
  4. fishonjazz

    fishonjazz Well-Known Member Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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    His old self as in the Hayward of his first 6 years in the league or the 7th year version of his old self?

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  5. Douchebag K

    Douchebag K Well-Known Member

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    His 16-17 year is his ceiling now. He won’t ever get back to his all star year level
     
  6. Saint Cy of JFC

    Saint Cy of JFC Well-Known Member

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    I think he could in the right situation (like back in Utah), but you're right that it probably won't happen on a team like Boston that doesnt need him to have the ball as much.
     
  7. Alfalfa

    Alfalfa Well-Known Member

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    I rolled my eyes so hard at that comment. He was barely good in a system built specifically for him. And it took him 7 years. He was already a bit slow, and he seems to have lost two steps. But no, he'll suddenly be a great player as a 30 year old. Mkay.

    NO would want nothing to do with that contract. And they would never trade AD for some irrelevant guy nobody wants.
     
  8. Saint Cy of JFC

    Saint Cy of JFC Well-Known Member

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    Agreed that NOLA wouldnt want Hayward. If they are trading Davis they are most likely doing a hard rebuild around young guys and picks.

     
  9. Saint Cy of JFC

    Saint Cy of JFC Well-Known Member

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    Whenever I watch Hayward highlights I get real sentimental about skip passes off drives.
     
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  10. DasJazz

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    I concur with this. Young player with huge upside and already shown he has the moxie to get it done. Do what it takes to get him, especially this package deal.
     
  11. Kyoto

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    If Ainge called me I would tell him to kindly f himself

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  12. idestroyedthetoilet

    idestroyedthetoilet Well-Known Member

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    Still not over him after two years?
     
  13. Sandman822

    Sandman822 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I'm kinda with LoPo on this one. It's not necessarily Gordon or Vucevic's fault that the Magic have been nothing more than lottery fodder the past 5 years or so with the bad PGs, bad wings and the inconsistent coaching they've had, but if you're paying Gordon 19 mil next year and then you decide to give Vuc 15+mil, that's a lot of money to have tied up in that frontcourt where you've also drafted two prospects in Bamba and Isaac who are on team controlled rookie deals that offer more potential since you already know what you're getting from Vuc, and AG doesn't really seem to be progressing the way the Magic would have hoped for as a franchise cornerstone. Seems to be more like the 3rd best guy on a championship team quality player, but it is worth mentioning that AG has a frontloaded contract so his final year is actually only around 16 mil which is pretty decent.

    The most Magic-esque thing to happen will be to just let Vuc walk in the offseason for nothing and then they have to play Gordon/Bamba/Isaac without getting anything in return, and I think they still try to deal him at the deadline even if he's an expiring so they can get something for him. They'll also need to make a decision on Terrance Ross who's having a career year in a contract year too, and they have Mozgov's ugly *** contract on the books for one more year afer this one along with Fournier's 17 mil a year for presumably two more years after this one (I don't see him turning down his player option).

    They're going to have one of the more interesting trade deadlines in the league this year and they should be one of the few sellers at the deadline... I just find it really hard to believe that they're going to give up on Bamba now when he's shown flashes of not only being a huge deterrant in the paint defensively, but also a guy who could potentially stretch out the floor at the 5 spot, which makes him an ultra valuable commodity in the modern NBA if he reaches that potential as a stretch 5 who can also defend very well.

    To me the Magic's decision is more around who do they go forward with between Gordon and Vuc as their main big that is flanked by Isaac and Bamba.
     
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  14. Alfalfa

    Alfalfa Well-Known Member

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    Not even close.
     
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  15. Sandman822

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    Also Hayward might be one of the most untradeable contracts in the league right now, 29.7/31.2/32.7 and then a player option of 34.1 mil left on his contract, plus there's a 15% trade kicker on his deal. I do think Hayward will turn it around at some stage and consistently play close to the level he was at before leaving Utah, but I don't think there's a team in the league that would deal for him right now unless they were getting some serious compensation back and Ainge wouldn't do that.
     
  16. NAOS

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    More. No doubt.
     
  17. infection

    infection Well-Known Member Staff Member 2018 Award Winner

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    I think his situation is an interesting quandary. Nobody else would deal for him, as you mention, but how do you make a deal for someone without using him as salary? Would a team on the receiving end even take a deal like that? I suppose over the summer, he'd then be a two-year contract. Is Boston stuck with him, as in, would they deal him if they didn't have to give up assets but didn't take salary back? My assumption is no, but at what point is his contract hindering?
     
  18. LoPo

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    Hayward could be traded for sure. I bet a team like Charlotte would love to have him.
     
  19. Handlogten's Heros

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    Based on what we know about Daddy Haystacks there is no way he waives the trade kicker... especially because Boston would have to pay for it and they would be betraying him. I think NO would be okay with his deal if he is playing better. Gordon is not physically back but I think the issues run deeper with the system and fit... he done effed up this decision bad... you've heard of the win-win situation... this was the rare everyone loses situation. He lost, Boston lost, we lost (he'd likely cure a lot of our issues if healthy).
     
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  20. zyzz

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    So it's Gordon's fault that Boler calls everything a skip pass
     
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