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It's amazing how 75% of the board loathes CJ (certainly understandable) thinks Harris, Jefferson and Okur are garbage, but assumes the rest of the league will jump at the chance to acquire those players and be perfectly willing to give the Jazz young talent in return.
 
It's amazing how 75% of the board loathes CJ (certainly understandable) thinks Harris, Jefferson and Okur are garbage, but assumes the rest of the league will jump at the chance to acquire those players and be perfectly willing to give the Jazz young talent in return.

Good stuff. Was thinking the same thing.
 
It's amazing how 75% of the board loathes CJ (certainly understandable) thinks Harris, Jefferson and Okur are garbage, but assumes the rest of the league will jump at the chance to acquire those players and be perfectly willing to give the Jazz young talent in return.

They are garbage because they don't fit our playing style...Harris excels in a fast paced offense not a half-court offense. As long as we have Corbin as our coach, Harris and Jefferson are garbage IMO. Jefferson is nothing but an isolation specialist. He can even run the pick and roll that well
 
For the record, I really don't think Harris or Jefferson are pure junk. Mostly, I don't think their games, salary, and age (age itself less a concern with Jefferson, until you consider he's 7 years in) fit here at all.
 
For the record, I really don't think Harris or Jefferson are pure junk. Mostly, I don't think their games, salary, and age (age itself less a concern with Jefferson, until you consider he's 7 years in) fit here at all.

Agree completely. Dont understand how PKM and the others don't agree
 
Agree completely. Dont understand how PKM and the others don't agree
Their point is totally valid and it underlines the entire idea of trading anyone: Why would someone want what I don't? It happens all the time, so chalk it up to 'grass is greener' in addition to fit. I've never seen Al or Devin (at least as the lead PG) as Jazz players. I'm hoping they look good because being stuck with their salary would then go from unideal (if they were pretty good/tradable) to a nightmare (if they sucked, they then become untradable).
 
Yeah, it'd be like offering a package like that for Derrick Favors. We'd laugh the proposer off the site. That's what Philly fans would do if you proposed this Holiday thread (heh) to them.
 
Their point is totally valid and it underlines the entire idea of trading anyone: Why would someone want what I don't? It happens all the time, so chalk it up to 'grass is greener' in addition to fit. I've never seen Al or Devin (at least as the lead PG) as Jazz players. I'm hoping they look good because being stuck with their salary would then go from unideal (if they were pretty good/tradable) to a nightmare (if they sucked, they then become untradable).

You and I are of the same opinion on Harris and Jefferson -- as players, and with respect to the future of the team.

But, I (perhaps more than you?) have convinced myself to like them a little more recently. I think we do have the pieces to complement Harris fairly well (provided Hayward and Burks come along); he'll be good enough to deal during next offseason or at next season's trade deadline for pick(s) and a decent player. It's basically the same for Jefferson. Contenders should be interested in their skills+contracts (particularly since they can be acquired before the big taxes on the new CBA kick in).

So, I think they can keep us relevant while the Young Four get some experience, then be ditched for more youth and cap space. It's hard for me to be patient, though. A promising PG prospect would be a good salve for my anxieties.... which sucks because I don't see one.

(^nothing surprising here. This has almost become a calming mantra for me.^)
 
The only only problem with trading Jefferson and/or Harris to a contender is that contenders are usually thin on assets useful for a rebuilding team (or will not part with them). Getting a protected 1st rounder for Jefferson and/or Harris when it's all said and done would be a very poor return. Ideal homes for them are teams that are on the trend upward, but still have assets and need to fill a shortcoming on the roster to make the next step.
 
The only only problem with trading Jefferson and/or Harris to a contender is that contenders are usually thin on assets useful for a rebuilding team (or will not part with them). Getting a protected 1st rounder for Jefferson and/or Harris when it's all said and done would be a very poor return. Ideal homes for them are teams that are on the trend upward, but still have assets and need to fill a shortcoming on the roster to make the next step.

Exactly. Basically it's easier to make a trade with a similar team (as far as contender, rebuilding, etc.) with different position needs.
 
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