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Jazz ability to build through the draft - scary stuff

gregbroncs said:
I would be worried if Sacramento, The Clippers, and Cavaliers were not in the top ten of his rating system. How have their picks made them better teams?
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The Clippers is an easy one as everyone knows their owner has not in the past ponied up the money to sign there draft choices to new contracts after their initial contracts are over. The Cavaliers lost LeBron and their starting center to Miami, that would effect any team. Think Jazz if D'Will left without us getting anything back for him. Don't know enough about Sacramento except the brothers that own the team seem to be jerks, there has been talk of moving the team for several years and they would have won a championship if the refs would not have cheated for the Lakers back around 2002.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
Hindsight is 20/20. Please point me to the post where you suggested this strategy when it would have been a relevant option.
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I actually talked to Reggie Miller before the Cavs v. Yata game and used the phrase, "KOC and Jerry Sloan should sign this guy for the rest of his career, he has proven his worth." while pointing at Wes. He then used that and tweaked it a bit after Gaines hit that shot.
 
chawx said:
I actually talked to Reggie Miller before the Cavs v. Yata game and used the phrase, "KOC and Jerry Sloan should sign this guy for the rest of his career, he has proven his worth." while pointing at Wes. He then used that and tweaked it a bit after Gaines hit that shot.
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In that case, rep given. I wish KOC would have listened to you. On a side note, what put you in position to talk to RM? That's cool.
 
chawx said:
Well, then that's what KOC should have done. If you talk to the guy up front and let them know your plans and tell them they're a part of the future and tell them you're showing them you mean it with your money, only a truly colossal douche-bag of a person would turn down that loyalty from his team and sign with another team (ahem, *cough* Boozer). Plus, it wasn't until later in the 09 season and the playoffs that Wes exploded on the national scene. Mid-season he was still seeming like a player that might be worth something, but was just a hard-working kid with a chip on his shoulder, no one would have thrown bigger than a 1st round rookie contract at him.

KOC could have locked Wes up mid-season and should have.
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It still wouldn't have worked. The league would have challenged it as a salary cap circumvention (and they would have been right). The contract would have likely been voided and Matthews not allowed to rejoin the Jazz.
 
Whether Sloan liked or disliked athleticism, I think he had a lot of power in the draft and player personnel decisions. It will be interesting to see what happens going forward with a coach that doesn't have years and years behind him. Could be better, could be worse, but it definitely changes the dynamic.
 
gregbroncs said:
I would be worried if Sacramento, The Clippers, and Cavaliers were not in the top ten of his rating system. How have their picks made them better teams?
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In related news, the current two-time defending champs are 25th and more teams in the bottom ten are in the playoffs than teams in the top 10.
 
Dude said:
Something tells me draft position has something to do with this.
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Hey supposedly the guy adjusted for draft position. Are you saying that his system, which appears to be based upon his totally arbitrary judgment, isn't perfect? Well obviously I strenuously disagree!
 
Nor does it take into account player injuries. You cnt fault a team like the clips that drafted Shaun livingston only to see him get a freak knee injury. Or the jazz that watched Lopez go down with a knee injury.
 
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