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Jazz and Knicks discussing Donovan Mitchell trade per Shams Charania and Tony Jones

framer said:
He's wildly overrated and not an athlete- sneaky or otherwise. If he played for the Cavs, no one would care about him at all. If we can get extra assets by leaving him with the Knicks, we should take it and run.
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Lmao you really drinking that David Locke sauce. The dude tested with a 39 inch vertical. He's an athlete.
 
homeytennis said:
Now a move that might affect the Jazz. It appears that Matt Ryan is going to be cut by the Celtics. He was a two way player for them last year and it said the new Jazz coach is a fan. He might be a two way player for the Jazz when the dust settles.
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Decided to watch a bit of his summer league action. He's like a poor-man's Duncan Robinson, at best. Seems like a very good shooter, for sure. Shot is pretty quick, but not Robinson level. And at 6-7, 215+ he has good size. But he was hunted relentlessly on defense by the opponent and invariably failed to keep any driver in front of him. And despite his size he doesn't put it into functional use (other than perhaps on his shot). From the G-League stats he's about the worst 6-7 SF rebounder I've ever seen. Could be a two-way, sure, if the Jazz decide to move on from Sneed, but I don't see any more upside for him than I do for Sneed.
 
New agreement I’d try to arrive at:
-Three unprotected picks: ‘24, ‘29, and an option to choose ‘26 or ‘27*. Focusing on ‘24 gets the Jazz a guaranteed pick for that year, the option creates some extra utility.
-Mavs ‘23 pick
-Four swaps: super swaps** in ‘23, ‘25, ‘26 or ‘27, and regular swap in ‘28
-Fournier, Toppin, hopefully Grimes or Quickley (to send to the Lakers) but maybe just McBride.

* this just occurred with the draft capital owed to the Pelicans by the Lakers
**’The Knicks will send the highest of their 1st round picks and receive the latest of the Jazz’s.’ This could function to turn a pick owed that is in the 20’s into a lottery pick depending on how things play out, but it stacks the odds of extracting a more premium asset.

The name of the game is to eventually get two all-stars out of the Mitchell and Gobert trades. They most likely need multiple chances to do that and still need some luck.

This might still be less value than Rudy got since I’m confident that some of those Wolves players will net more (hopefully valuable) 1sts in a Lakers deal.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
NBA should just legalize all tampering.

The Knicks signed his dad as a coach. How the hell can they not tamper? Is his Dad not suppose to talk to him ever?
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My thought exactly. To me this is weird just because we all know this **** happens all the damn time. No way in hell the league doesn't know about it. Are they just placating people that are mad about it by having a sham investigation to say "don't worry folks everything is fine". It's stupid.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
So every team that signs a player right when Free Agency stars should get tampering charges?
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Exactly. This happens literally every year with someone somewhere. It is stupid. No way they can enforce this adequately.
 
I think the Knicks likely want to pepper in some more 2023 picks while Ainge wants their unprotected. He knows the Knicks are their own worst enemy.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
NBA should just legalize all tampering.

The Knicks signed his dad as a coach. How the hell can they not tamper? Is his Dad not suppose to talk to him ever?
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I don't know if that helps or hurts the tampering investigation. I mean he can talk openly to his dad still right?

The toothpaste is out of the tube. Ya gonna hit every team with tampering?
 
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