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Jazz and Knicks discussing Donovan Mitchell trade per Shams Charania and Tony Jones

Handlogten's Heros said:
Exactly… he can make vibes ****** without trying… what happens when he leans in? Don’t risk poisoning the well to get an extra asset… even if we just get 3 UP and 2 PP we are fine and can combine that with the Minny return and we are absolutely getting at least one pick from LA.

Making him sit in the stink he helped creat sounds cute but it doesn’t benefit us at all… and absolutely could hurt us.

Danny can keep digging in and the RJ thing is likely a small setback… if Donovan is on the roster to start the season it will get ugly.
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I would argue that playing in a losing situation is EXACTLY what Mitchell needs as a player right now. He's had it really good and he ruined the really good. If he plays on a 26 win team do you think he will dog it on defense once he gets a winner just to "prove a point" to a teammate? he needs to know what he had in order to make the maturity changes he needs to be a champion.
 
Worst comes to worst, the season begins without a trade, the Knicks will suck as usual, and dumbass Rose will be pressured to trade for Mitchell and he will cave to Ainge's demands.
 
The Knicks really shouldn’t have extended RJ. If they trade for Donovan they have zero cap space going forward to try and attract another star. They also have to give up more assets now. I always thought it made the most sense from both sides to include RJ but yet here we are.
 
framer said:
I would argue that playing in a losing situation is EXACTLY what Mitchell needs as a player right now. He's had it really good and he ruined the really good. If he plays on a 26 win team do you think he will dog it on defense once he gets a winner just to "prove a point" to a teammate? he needs to know what he had in order to make the maturity changes he needs to be a champion.
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Oh Jebus... you think he will be a champion here? I'm sure he will take the 26 wins as motivation to help us and be totally introspective and honest with himself... or he will say eff those guys I'm out.

This ain't a Disney movie.
 
Elizah Huge said:
I was thinking the compromise from both sides was Grimes and no extra pick.
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Nah... the offer of RJ and picks was the compromise. We want 4 UPs they want to give us 2. Taking three makes their second move harder but they would do it... I'm guessing that was pitched to Danny as well but not sure he would bite.

This may have been the Knicks best course and their preference... RJ and the picks was a fair deal. Maybe the Jazz and Knicks colluded against RJ.... Rose is like "we will make this loud stink about RJ but we aren't gonna trade him to you... we will make it super dramatic with deadlines and ****... once we settle with RJ using Utah as a threat we will give you the 4 picks you want."
 
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