Jazz and Knicks discussing Donovan Mitchell trade per Shams Charania and Tony Jones

[Handlogten's Heros]

It will come out this week that Herro has a lot of fans in Jazz and other teams front offices... it will also come out that actually Toronto is solidly in the mix here... we don't have to tell them what the offers are. Can tell them we want it done in the next few weeks so we can give our attention to our other deals... so go ahead and send your best offer and we will make a decision. If its still not quite there tell them to sweeten it just a bit and you win.

Knicks can give up the farm to do this... but they can't make it look easy and that they got steam rolled.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

Stop what?

It’s LoPo this LoPo that. It’s stocker Cy.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

If they are likely to land in the 20's why is NYK so pressed about protecting them?

The other picks they own that are protected... the Milwaukee and Dallas picks... Detroit and Was (the washington pick has a real shot at not conveying... that is a garbage pick).

 

[stitches]

From Katz at the Athletic on the NY day to day GM:

Leon Rose is New York’s team president, but he doesn’t do most of the day-to-day trade calls. Most commonly, those are up to vice president of basketball and strategic planning Brock Aller, who oversees salary cap management. Every once in a while, someone else will take the reins, especially when another Knicks higher-up has a solid relationship with an executive in an opposing front office they’re trying to make a deal with.

Aller obsesses over marginal value, which should be refreshing for Knicks fans who remain traumatized from teams of the past needlessly tossing first-round picks into the fireplace. He wants to hold onto picks and acquire others. He notoriously squeezes teams just for the draft rights to an extra player, something that’s far more trivial to most others.

Buckle up... Ainge vs. Aller gonna be a fight.

I was going to say "We can always trade them the rights to Ante Tomic"... but then I decided to check if we haven't traded those rights and ... shocking I tell you ... we traded it to the Knicks in 2020

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

It’s LoPo this LoPo that. It’s stocker Cy.

It's too early to be drinking on a Tuesday.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

If they are likely to land in the 20's why is NYK so pressed about protecting them?

I think he means protections into the 20’s maybe.

 

[idiot]

I outlined it above. Essentially a Lowry/Strus package to Dallas while taking back Bertans salary and salary filler coming to us with their 2025 1st.

4 unprotected 1sts and 3 pick swaps + Herro + Jovic + Yurtseven is a realistic package they could come up with.

I do think this is plausible, at least. Likely? Probably not (I don't think Dallas is likely to go there, at least not before the season plays out a little bit).

But when you're comparing it to the desire for 6 picks from the Knicks (plus some usable players), it's still rather far short to me (I know we disagree about Herro's value to the Jazz).

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRkU0mH8su0

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Toronto could have a legit offer. Three of their own firsts and OG (who could likely get at least 2 other firsts... maybe 3 in the right scenario).

As soon as the Knicks see they are playing with fire they asses will pucker and they will run to the phone to get Danny on the line.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

At this point, I would hold Donovan until next offseason and insist that teams offer a top-10 lottery pick as the centerpiece of their package.

Jazz tank this season, even if they need to hold Donovan out for some games. Then rebuild with two lottery picks in the next draft.

 

[LoPo]

C'mon bro. You hated on Rudy as much if not more than any other poster here has hated on anybody. If you're gonna be like this, look in the mirror. You are far more guilty of what you are pointing your fingers at others than 90+% of us.

I didn't believe we could win a title with everything built around Rudy. It's not hate; it's an opinion.

I'm critical of Don, but nobody acknowledges it. I'm critical of Rudy, and I'm a hater.

Spin doctors at work

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[Handlogten's Heros]

I do think this is plausible, at least. Likely? Probably not (I don't think Dallas is likely to go there, at least not before the season plays out a little bit).

But when you're comparing it to the desire for 6 picks from the Knicks (plus some usable players), it's still rather far short to me (I know we disagree about Herro's value to the Jazz).

If 4 of those firsts are the ones they own from other teams its like 3.5 firsts and they will all be in the 20s... then you get the Knicks 23/25 (unprotected?).