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Jazz and Knicks discussing Donovan Mitchell trade per Shams Charania and Tony Jones

whatthe said:
Maybe, but he requires a lot space to operate. Just get to the spots quicker than him. He is playing against no one who plays NBA level defense. It is like watching him play in a gym by himself. I think he will crumble with some legit talent guarding him or double teaming.
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Yeah, the NBA is a famous for not having spacing for it's players to operate.

Just get to the spots quicker than him? HE IS AT LEAST SEVEN FOOT 3 INCHES.

There are plenty of players in Europe who are very good defenders.

He's played against a lot of legit talent. He's part of French Basketball, one of the most talent stacked countries outside of America. I'm sure he has trained against Rudy Gobert.
 
If I’m the Knicks do I trade all of that for Donovan knowing what I know about him?

Yes. You’re the ****ing New York Knicks. You’ve made the playoffs 5 times in the last 20 years.

Get the superstar now and figure the rest out later.

If you are dead set on keeping the 2029 1st then offer 23/25/27 unprotected with 3 of the other 4 1sts you have. Make this **** happen.
 
Toronto could be a really interesting suitor for Donovan. They can pony up 3-4 of their own first and swaps confidently. OG is a guy that gets two good firsts or more from a suitor. Trent Jr. could also net something in a multi-team scenario... imagine they miss on KD or KD just says he isn't going anywhere.

You could do Donovan for OG/Trent Jr. 3 unprotected firsts (24/26/28). Send OG to NOP for Grahamn/Temple, one of their own firsts (top 4 protected) and the Bucks first they own in 2027 unprotected... Trent Jr. goes to LA in the much mentioned Westbrook deal where we land a first or two. You've gathered 6+ firsts basically unprotected and taken back minimal bad salary. These are the scenarios you can use to push NY in right now. I'd rather bet against 3-4 franchises (Toronto, NO, LA, Bucks-in 4 years) than just one... even if that one is really mostly ******.
 
Elizah Huge said:
If I’m the Knicks do I trade all of that for Donovan knowing what I know about him?

Yes. You’re the ****ing New York Knicks. You’ve made the playoffs 5 times in the last 20 years.

Get the superstar now and figure the rest out later.

If you are dead set on keeping the 2029 1st then offer 23/25/27 unprotected with 3 of the other 4 1sts you have. Make this **** happen.
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24/26/28 unprotected 1sts will be fine too. That would mean we have two 1sts in every draft for the rest of the decade.
 
Elizah Huge said:
If I’m the Knicks do I trade all of that for Donovan knowing what I know about him?

Yes. You’re the ****ing New York Knicks. You’ve made the playoffs 5 times in the last 20 years.

Get the superstar now and figure the rest out later.

If you are dead set on keeping the 2029 1st then offer 23/25/27 unprotected with 3 of the other 4 1sts you have. Make this **** happen.
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I do think its a little wild they are at this point and feel pretty confident and like they can wait us out. The longer they wait the more opportunity we have for a good offer to sneak in that beats their B+/A- version of what they can offer.
 
Elizah Huge said:
24/26/28 unprotected 1sts will be fine too. That would mean we have two 1sts in every draft for the rest of the decade.
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NOOOOO! We absolutely want the 2023 pick unprotected... so 23/26/28 is acceptable. It also helps them because next year they could trade 24/30 with Barrett or someone for their second star.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Is he legit 7'4"? I have seen anything from 7' even to 7'6" in shoes. What does he actually measure, do we know?

And didn't he shoot like 26% from international 3 last season?
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He's 9' tall and has laser bolts coming from out his arse.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I do think its a little wild they are at this point and feel pretty confident and like they can wait us out. The longer they wait the more opportunity we have for a good offer to sneak in that beats their B+/A- version of what they can offer.
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Exactly. We’ve discussed Miami for awhile and they are one trade away from being able to put together a competitive offer. That’s just one team. Orlando could sweep in so could Toronto.
 
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