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Jazz and Knicks discussing Donovan Mitchell trade per Shams Charania and Tony Jones

Noomskull said:
At this point I’d rather keep Mitchell and have him play out his contract with us than hand him over to the pompous NY fan base and their media who are acting like the league owes them a favor. The fact that they think they have any sort of leverage in this deal is just laughable.
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I'd rather trade him to Miami for their picks/swaps/Herro and other minor stuff... but yeah their front office guy is playing with fire here. If your dream house comes on the market, you have the money to buy it... you may not want to haggle over price too hard.

Imagine Toronto comes in with an offer of OG and 4 firsts but as part of the deal offer we can't go ask the Knicks to counter... they/we already have some third team lined up for OG that will give us some draft capital. They lose cuz they were a little too confident... would be amazing.

Knicks fans are pretty annoying bunch... assume Don deal is inevitable... already talk like he's on the roster... act like he requested a trade there. Maybe its better if we do get their stuff and then Don leaves them in FA in a few years!!!
 
And if Charlotte will give their 27/29 unprotected, swaps in 26/28, the Denver pick, PJ Washington, Bouknight... then they are in the convo. They can also add another pick or swaps by saying if their 2023 pick falls top 16 we can have the right to swap it with the Minny pick... if it goes above that and thus conveys to SA, then we get the 2025 Charlotte pick as well.
 
Its also weird for Knicks fans to simultaneously be super confident and then talk about how they have the best trade package... when almost all of the value in that package is because they and everyone else assumes their unprotected picks will be in the lotto.
 
At this point, I don’t think a trade happens. All offseason long, the only times our front office has gone on record is to say that they’ll “do what’s best for the Utah Jazz”. Aside from knowing that the Knicks and the Jazz have had discussions, we really don’t know just how interested Utah is in trading Donovan. Pretty much every nugget of info has been speculation by the media.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Ainge’s gameplan is using the Gobert assets to build a team around Donovan that compels him to stay.
 
I am just as happy with Donovan staying. I think he has heard he can't defend long enough and I think with Gobert out we will need to make it happen or his credibility as a player will free fall like Westbrook.

My prediction... Donovan is going be compelled by circumstances to be a different player between the situation, the coaching change, the lack of Gobert, and his desire to prove himself without Gobert on the court. It will be fun to watch and be a part of. Watching him in NY would just piss me off...

UNLESS they throw the kitchen sink.

In short, I have reached Ainge's Catharsis and I will not sell our best asset for pennies on the dollar because I believe in Spida. Lick that taint NuuuuuYaaaaawk.
 
Jazzman12 said:
At this point, I don’t think a trade happens. All offseason long, the only times our front office has gone on record is to say that they’ll “do what’s best for the Utah Jazz”. Aside from knowing that the Knicks and the Jazz have had discussions, we really don’t know just how interested Utah is in trading Donovan. Pretty much every nugget of info has been speculation by the media.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Ainge’s gameplan is using the Gobert assets to build a team around Donovan that compels him to stay.
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After September 6th we have to start showing our cards. Unless they were blown away with an offer I would be somewhat shocked to see it happen before the period between 9/6 and training camp.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
After September 6th we have to start showing our cards. Unless they were blown away with an offer I would be somewhat shocked to see it happen before the period between 9/6 and training camp.
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Am I wrong in saying that while the Jazz can’t officially trade any package of players acquired in the Rudy deal before September 6th, they could still announce that they’ve agreed in principle to trade Donovan to NY in a deal that won’t become official until September 6th?
 
If we keep Mitchell we had better ****ing keep Beverley as he'll go a long way a addressing our ****** perimeter defense.

If we trade Mitchell I'm fine with blowing just about everything up for picks and future talent. Though I'm excited about Vanderbilt and Kessler and think both will play well in the system.

I also want us to sign Whiteside - he's still a F.A. and he would be a great help, whether we tank or not.
 
Jazzman12 said:
Am I wrong in saying that while the Jazz can’t officially trade any package of players acquired in the Rudy deal before September 6th, they could still announce that they’ve agreed in principle to trade Donovan to NY in a deal that won’t become official until September 6th?
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I think August 30th was the date, but I maybe wrong on that.
 
Jazzman12 said:
Am I wrong in saying that while the Jazz can’t officially trade any package of players acquired in the Rudy deal before September 6th, they could still announce that they’ve agreed in principle to trade Donovan to NY in a deal that won’t become official until September 6th?
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No but would leave some things to chance. Physicals and such.

It also may not be a deal with New York that we are waiting on sept. 6th... it could be that we have a deal with Lakers but they are going to hunt around until the deal can actually be completed.

I just think it won't happen until around then unless Knicks get nervous and give up the bag. It would also make sense if we wanted to re-route Rose/Fournier and mix them in with some of the Minny guys. No need to agree prematurely and announce it. Then someone gets hurt in a summer workout... fails a physical and the deal blows up as-is.
 
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